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Old 11-20-07, 10:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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why do non-Western insults always translate so poorly

After hearing pathetic non-Western insults for years (particularly asian; "your mother is a turtle", etc.) I'm beginning to conclude that only Westerners are capable of really gross burns.

Is it all really in translation? Does "your mother is a turtle" really mean somthing as provocative as "your mother is the lacross team cum dumpster" and its all lost in the cultural divide?
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Old 11-20-07, 08:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They have different standards of what is insulting.

"Your mother is a dog" is not really worse than "your mother is a turtle".
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Old 11-20-07, 08:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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After hearing pathetic non-Western insults for years (particularly asian; "your mother is a turtle", etc.) I'm beginning to conclude that only Westerners are capable of really gross burns.

Is it all really in translation? Does "your mother is a turtle" really mean somthing as provocative as "your mother is the lacross team cum dumpster" and its all lost in the cultural divide?
To call someone a "turtle" in Chinese culture is sort of a double entendre: on one hand, it means slow, dull-witted and stupid. But it also means a cuckold. It means someone who is too stupid to know their spouse is cheating on them right in front of their face.
So, to say "your mother is a turtle" on one hand simply means "your mother's stupid", on the other hand means "Your mother is a cuckold", or "Your father fucks around on your mother, and she's so stupid she doesn't even realize it."

I think it's difficult to discern the finer nuances of various languages and cultures unless one is actually fluent.
It's probably not that their insults lack bite; it probably just seems so to you because you're unfamiliar with the culture, so the insults go over your head.
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Old 11-24-07, 02:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah, it's hilarious learning some of the nuances in foreign languages. Since we're specifically talking about the Chinese, a friend of mine who served as a Mormon missionary there told me that their way of cheering on racers (like we would say "Go! Go! Go!") literally means "Add oil! Add oil! Add oil!"
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Old 11-24-07, 02:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah, it's hilarious learning some of the nuances in foreign languages. Since we're specifically talking about the Chinese, a friend of mine who served as a Mormon missionary there told me that their way of cheering on racers (like we would say "Go! Go! Go!") literally means "Add oil! Add oil! Add oil!"
In French we'd say "appuye sur le champignon!" (press the mushroom)
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I think it's difficult to discern the finer nuances of various languages and cultures unless one is actually fluent.
It's probably not that their insults lack bite; it probably just seems so to you because you're unfamiliar with the culture, so the insults go over your head.
I'm not fluent in English but I see that some of Cherokee's insults are hilarious
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