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UN Name Israel Number One Violator of Womens Rights

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IWF - Outrage: U.N. Names Israel as Number One Violator of Women's Rights

In Saudi Arabia women can’t drive cars, can be flogged if they don’t wear traditional garb, receive half the inheritance of their brothers are not permitted to travel unless accompanied by a male relative. Clearly, you are thinking, Saudi Arabia must be a candidate for the worst country in the world for women. Not a bit of it. The United Nations has just named the worst nation for women’s rights. And which country might that be? Israel of course.

Countries the U. N. bypassed: Iran, where “adultery” (it is broadly defined) is a capital offense, as is fighting back against a male rapist, and Sudan, where domestic violence is legal, girls are often married off at the age of ten and genital mutilation is practiced on half the female population. Bayefsky points out that it is unlikely that the U.N. Commission on the Status of Women would name Iran for the richly deserved “worst for women” designation since Iran is an elected member of CSW. Sudan, where the president has been accused of genocide, is also not likely to be criticized by the CSW—Sudan is a CSW vice-chair.​

It is becoming increasingly difficult to ignore the sham the UN has become in recent decades. An ineffective "police" force, and highly corrupt (food for oil program, etc..), the folly of the UN suggests it should be removed from the US, and further US involvement should be looked at very closely.

What should replace it?
 
ocean515 said:
IWF - Outrage: U.N. Names Israel as Number One Violator of Women's Rights

In Saudi Arabia women can’t drive cars, can be flogged if they don’t wear traditional garb, receive half the inheritance of their brothers are not permitted to travel unless accompanied by a male relative. Clearly, you are thinking, Saudi Arabia must be a candidate for the worst country in the world for women. Not a bit of it. The United Nations has just named the worst nation for women’s rights. And which country might that be? Israel of course.

Countries the U. N. bypassed: Iran, where “adultery” (it is broadly defined) is a capital offense, as is fighting back against a male rapist, and Sudan, where domestic violence is legal, girls are often married off at the age of ten and genital mutilation is practiced on half the female population. Bayefsky points out that it is unlikely that the U.N. Commission on the Status of Women would name Iran for the richly deserved “worst for women” designation since Iran is an elected member of CSW. Sudan, where the president has been accused of genocide, is also not likely to be criticized by the CSW—Sudan is a CSW vice-chair.​

It is becoming increasingly difficult to ignore the sham the UN has become in recent decades. An ineffective "police" force, and highly corrupt (food for oil program, etc..), the folly of the UN suggests it should be removed from the US, and further US involvement should be looked at very closely.

What should replace it?
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It simply needs a new and better constitution and corresponding responsibilities with the means to fulfill them.
 
ocean515 said:
IWF - Outrage: U.N. Names Israel as Number One Violator of Women's Rights

In Saudi Arabia women can’t drive cars, can be flogged if they don’t wear traditional garb, receive half the inheritance of their brothers are not permitted to travel unless accompanied by a male relative. Clearly, you are thinking, Saudi Arabia must be a candidate for the worst country in the world for women. Not a bit of it. The United Nations has just named the worst nation for women’s rights. And which country might that be? Israel of course.

Countries the U. N. bypassed: Iran, where “adultery” (it is broadly defined) is a capital offense, as is fighting back against a male rapist, and Sudan, where domestic violence is legal, girls are often married off at the age of ten and genital mutilation is practiced on half the female population. Bayefsky points out that it is unlikely that the U.N. Commission on the Status of Women would name Iran for the richly deserved “worst for women” designation since Iran is an elected member of CSW. Sudan, where the president has been accused of genocide, is also not likely to be criticized by the CSW—Sudan is a CSW vice-chair.​

It is becoming increasingly difficult to ignore the sham the UN has become in recent decades. An ineffective "police" force, and highly corrupt (food for oil program, etc..), the folly of the UN suggests it should be removed from the US, and further US involvement should be looked at very closely.

What should replace it?
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What should replace a headache? ;)
 
joG said:
It simply needs a new and better constitution and corresponding responsibilities with the means to fulfill them.
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You mean a better Charter? It seems the Charter is sound, but the principles are ignored. As to responsibilities, it would seem many are loath to uphold their end of the bargain, as they don't have the will, or the money to do so.

That leaves the UN as a toothless, power hungry band of international deal makers, attempting to elevate the UN to act as a Central Global Government over all people. The UNIPCC is a great example of this.
 
ocean515 said:
You mean a better Charter? It seems the Charter is sound, but the principles are ignored. As to responsibilities, it would seem many are loath to uphold their end of the bargain, as they don't have the will, or the money to do so.

That leaves the UN as a toothless, power hungry band of international deal makers, attempting to elevate the UN to act as a Central Global Government over all people. The UNIPCC is a great example of this.
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Principals and Charter are the wrong approach to law and security. That is where the problem with the UN begins.
 
ocean515 said:
IWF - Outrage: U.N. Names Israel as Number One Violator of Women's Rights

In Saudi Arabia women can’t drive cars, can be flogged if they don’t wear traditional garb, receive half the inheritance of their brothers are not permitted to travel unless accompanied by a male relative. Clearly, you are thinking, Saudi Arabia must be a candidate for the worst country in the world for women. Not a bit of it. The United Nations has just named the worst nation for women’s rights. And which country might that be? Israel of course.

Countries the U. N. bypassed: Iran, where “adultery” (it is broadly defined) is a capital offense, as is fighting back against a male rapist, and Sudan, where domestic violence is legal, girls are often married off at the age of ten and genital mutilation is practiced on half the female population. Bayefsky points out that it is unlikely that the U.N. Commission on the Status of Women would name Iran for the richly deserved “worst for women” designation since Iran is an elected member of CSW. Sudan, where the president has been accused of genocide, is also not likely to be criticized by the CSW—Sudan is a CSW vice-chair.​

It is becoming increasingly difficult to ignore the sham the UN has become in recent decades. An ineffective "police" force, and highly corrupt (food for oil program, etc..), the folly of the UN suggests it should be removed from the US, and further US involvement should be looked at very closely.

What should replace it?
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1. The UN is a joke.
2. There shouldn't be an international body dedicated to promoting feminism.
3. Insofar as said body dedicated to feminism does exist, it is good that it be tempered with conservative regimes.
4. The statement that resisting rape is a capital crime in Iran is libelous.
5. Aside from 4, nothing you mentioned about Iran and Saudi Arabia is bad.
6. Nothing should replace the UN, countries should be allowed to govern themselves without meddling by depraved busybodies.
 
Paleocon said:
1. The UN is a joke.
2. There shouldn't be an international body dedicated to promoting feminism.
3. Insofar as said body dedicated to feminism does exist, it is good that it be tempered with conservative regimes.
4. The statement that resisting rape is a capital crime in Iran is libelous.
5. Aside from 4, nothing you mentioned about Iran and Saudi Arabia is bad.
6. Nothing should replace the UN, countries should be allowed to govern themselves without meddling by depraved busybodies.
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:shock:

Thank you for your opinion.
 
ocean515 said:
IWF - Outrage: U.N. Names Israel as Number One Violator of Women's Rights
In Saudi Arabia women can’t drive cars, can be flogged if they don’t wear traditional garb, receive half the inheritance of their brothers are not permitted to travel unless accompanied by a male relative. Clearly, you are thinking, Saudi Arabia must be a candidate for the worst country in the world for women. Not a bit of it. The United Nations has just named the worst nation for women’s rights. And which country might that be? Israel of course.

Countries the U. N. bypassed: Iran, where “adultery” (it is broadly defined) is a capital offense, as is fighting back against a male rapist, and Sudan, where domestic violence is legal, girls are often married off at the age of ten and genital mutilation is practiced on half the female population. Bayefsky points out that it is unlikely that the U.N. Commission on the Status of Women would name Iran for the richly deserved “worst for women” designation since Iran is an elected member of CSW. Sudan, where the president has been accused of genocide, is also not likely to be criticized by the CSW—Sudan is a CSW vice-chair.​

It is becoming increasingly difficult to ignore the sham the UN has become in recent decades. An ineffective "police" force, and highly corrupt (food for oil program, etc..), the folly of the UN suggests it should be removed from the US, and further US involvement should be looked at very closely.

What should replace it?
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According to the CSW, nothing involving "da jooz."
 
ocean515 said:
IWF - Outrage: U.N. Names Israel as Number One Violator of Women's Rights

In Saudi Arabia women can’t drive cars, can be flogged if they don’t wear traditional garb, receive half the inheritance of their brothers are not permitted to travel unless accompanied by a male relative. Clearly, you are thinking, Saudi Arabia must be a candidate for the worst country in the world for women. Not a bit of it. The United Nations has just named the worst nation for women’s rights. And which country might that be? Israel of course.

Countries the U. N. bypassed: Iran, where “adultery” (it is broadly defined) is a capital offense, as is fighting back against a male rapist, and Sudan, where domestic violence is legal, girls are often married off at the age of ten and genital mutilation is practiced on half the female population. Bayefsky points out that it is unlikely that the U.N. Commission on the Status of Women would name Iran for the richly deserved “worst for women” designation since Iran is an elected member of CSW. Sudan, where the president has been accused of genocide, is also not likely to be criticized by the CSW—Sudan is a CSW vice-chair.​

It is becoming increasingly difficult to ignore the sham the UN has become in recent decades. An ineffective "police" force, and highly corrupt (food for oil program, etc..), the folly of the UN suggests it should be removed from the US, and further US involvement should be looked at very closely.

What should replace it?
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This is over a year old..
Here is the text: https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N15/070/06/PDF/N1507006.pdf?OpenElement

Should it be replaced? No. Reformed? Maybe.

But hey here is the recent CSW schedule: Commission on the Status of Women | UNFPA - United Nations Population Fund
Program to end child marriage, program to end genital mutilation. I think we can all get behind that and put a non binding resolution over protecting Palestinian women behind us. :shrug:
 
ocean515 said:
What should replace it?
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Call it what you wish. Membership is select and limited to states that can satisfy certain rights benchmarks and legal standards.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
This is over a year old..
Here is the text: https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N15/070/06/PDF/N1507006.pdf?OpenElement

Should it be replaced? No. Reformed? Maybe.

But hey here is the recent CSW schedule: Commission on the Status of Women | UNFPA - United Nations Population Fund
Program to end child marriage, program to end genital mutilation. I think we can all get behind that and put a non binding resolution over protecting Palestinian women behind us. :shrug:
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Not sure what you are referring to as being over a year old.

US 'disappointed UN rights council continues to single out Israel’ - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post

By TOVAH LAZAROFF \

03/27/2015 21:29


The US sharply criticized the United Nations Human Rights Council on Friday for its biased treatment of Israel.

“We are disappointed that this council continually singles out Israel for criticism without acknowledging the violent attacks directed at its people, nor the obligations and difficult steps required of both sides. In short, such singling out undermines the credibility of the council,” said US Ambassador to the UNHRC Keith Harper.


As to CSW, it's leadership, and it's conclusions, make it a mockery, and a circus of clowns who need to driven to a different circus to peddle their foul wares.
 
Simpleχity;1065714141 said:
Call it what you wish. Membership is select and limited to states that can satisfy certain rights benchmarks and legal standards.
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At one time this was true. What the benchmarks have become, and what legal standards are involved, leaves little doubt as to the UN's lack of relevance as a governing institution today.
 
ocean515 said:
The ones that are so shocking are the ones you meant for them to be.
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What? That countries should be allowed to govern themselves? That the UN shouldn't promote feminism? That libeling Iran is still libel?
 
ocean515 said:
Not sure what you are referring to as being over a year old.
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The link in your OP
"March 19 2015
Outrage: U.N. Names Israel as Number One Violator of Women's Rights
Charlotte Hays"
IWF - Outrage: U.N. Names Israel as Number One Violator of Women's Rights

US 'disappointed UN rights council continues to single out Israel’ - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post

By TOVAH LAZAROFF \

03/27/2015 21:29


The US sharply criticized the United Nations Human Rights Council on Friday for its biased treatment of Israel.

“We are disappointed that this council continually singles out Israel for criticism without acknowledging the violent attacks directed at its people, nor the obligations and difficult steps required of both sides. In short, such singling out undermines the credibility of the council,” said US Ambassador to the UNHRC Keith Harper.
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This says nothing about womens rights.
After doing some research it seems the CSW did pass a new updated resolution, mostly just an update on the UN's work in the West Bank and Gaza in regards to programs and issues affecting women http://www2.unwomen.org/~/media/hea...conclusions 24march.pdf?v=1&d=20160328T173209

As to CSW, it's leadership, and it's conclusions, make it a mockery, and a circus of clowns who need to driven to a different circus to peddle their foul wares.
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:shrug:
 
Paleocon said:
What? That countries should be allowed to govern themselves? That the UN shouldn't promote feminism? That libeling Iran is still libel?
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That would be the ones.

Iran libel? Total BS to the extreme that can be expressed. Claiming such is as repugnant as the treatment of women in Iran.

Women in Iran Deem Rape Laws Unfair  By Shadi Sadr

In Iran, if a woman is raped, she is considered an adulteress and faces death by stoning. But if a woman fights off a sexual predator and kills him, she can then be tried for murder and face death by hanging.

If a man is proven to have raped a woman, his punishment is execution by hanging. But in almost all cases, the man is set free because judges traditionally look for signs in the behavior and
clothing of the woman in order to explain away the act of rape. A Persian-language proverb goes like this: "It is the tree that hosts the worm," meaning rape is caused by women and their suggestive behavior.​

U.S. condemns Iran's hanging of alleged rape victim
 
TheDemSocialist said:
The link in your OP
"March 19 2015
Outrage: U.N. Names Israel as Number One Violator of Women's Rights
Charlotte Hays"
IWF - Outrage: U.N. Names Israel as Number One Violator of Women's Rights


This says nothing about womens rights.
After doing some research it seems the CSW did pass a new updated resolution, mostly just an update on the UN's work in the West Bank and Gaza in regards to programs and issues affecting women http://www2.unwomen.org/~/media/hea...conclusions 24march.pdf?v=1&d=20160328T173209



:shrug:
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:doh

You are correct. Over a year old.

That being so, it doesn't change the nature of their claim.
 
ocean515 said:
That would be the ones.

Iran libel? Total BS to the extreme that can be expressed. Claiming such is as repugnant as the treatment of women in Iran.

Women in Iran Deem Rape Laws Unfair* By Shadi Sadr

In Iran, if a woman is raped, she is considered an adulteress and faces death by stoning. But if a woman fights off a sexual predator and kills him, she can then be tried for murder and face death by hanging.

If a man is proven to have raped a woman, his punishment is execution by hanging. But in almost all cases, the man is set free because judges traditionally look for signs in the behavior and
clothing of the woman in order to explain away the act of rape. A Persian-language proverb goes like this: "It is the tree that hosts the worm," meaning rape is caused by women and their suggestive behavior.​

U.S. condemns Iran's hanging of alleged rape victim
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As your own source says, resisting a rape, even with deadly force is legal in Iran, so your claim that it isn't was libelous.

And no, stabbing someone 34 times and then fleeing the scene isn't self-defense, not anywhere I'm aware of at least.
 
Paleocon said:
As your own source says, resisting a rape, even with deadly force is legal in Iran, so your claim that it isn't was libelous.

And no, stabbing someone 34 times and then fleeing the scene isn't self-defense, not anywhere I'm aware of at least.
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Apparently it isn't. The rope had the final say in the matter.
 
ocean515 said:
Apparently it isn't. The rope had the final say in the matter.
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You do understand she would be put away here too, right? An American court wouldn't likely buy her dubious self-defense claim either.
 
Paleocon said:
You do understand she would be put away here too, right? An American court wouldn't likely buy her dubious self-defense claim either.
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Just out of interest, do you approve of Saudi Arabia's policy of not allowing women to drive?
 
Paleocon said:
You do understand she would be put away here too, right? An American court wouldn't likely buy her dubious self-defense claim either.
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No, I don't understand that. Given the abject fear men in Iran have over women, I'm not surprised they killed her for daring not to enjoy her rape.
 
Politicshead said:
Just out of interest, do you approve of Saudi Arabia's policy of not allowing women to drive?
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I believe that countries have the right to govern themselves how they see fit, insofar as they don't violate natural law. Who can obtain a driver license is a prudential question that different countries can answer differently.

ocean515 said:
No, I don't understand that. Given the abject fear men in Iran have over women, I'm not surprised they killed her for daring not to enjoy her rape.
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They killed her (or are going to, has it actually hapened yet?) because she stabbed a police chief 34 times. We probably wouldn't execute her (because we're extremely restrictive about the use of the death penalty) but she certainly wouldn't be walking free in America.
 
Trump was right about leaving the UN. They offer the world nothing of value.
 
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