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What the Right simply doesn't get about "Islamic Terrorism"

Glen Contrarian

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Muslim terrorists have staged major terrorist attacks in the following first-world nations: America, England, France, Russia, a couple small ones in Australia, and now Belgium. They're striking EVERYwhere, huh?

But wait. Are there nations where there's lots of Muslims that there's been no significant terrorist attacks? Let's see here: Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Solakia, Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Romania, Bulgaria, Denmark, Croatia, Ukraine...the list goes on.

So one must ask why it is that so many of these nations which DO have significant Muslim populations aren't having any significant terrorist attacks? Yes, there was some egregious crap going on in Germany during the New Year, but it wasn't a terrorist attack. Why haven't there been attacks in Italy and Spain, even though they've got significant Muslim populations?

What's the common denominator?

Belgium, we've since found, has a largely dysfunctional governmental system that makes it easy for bad people to fly under the radar. All the rest have been very active in military actions in the Middle East...whereas almost none of the rest have been militarily active to any significant extent in the Middle East. In other words, it would seem that terrorists who happen to follow Islam aren't at war with the West or with "Christianity"...but with those nations who have conducted the most military strikes in the Middle East.

One more thing - Fox News just reported that ISIS sent 400 fighters to Europe to make terrorist strikes. Generally speaking, it takes about 10 people in a military chain of logistics to keep one man on the fighting front. It's probably significantly less when it comes to terrorists, but let's stick with the 10-1 ratio. That means that there may be as many as 4000 trained ISIS fighters and their supporters in Europe. Sounds like a LOT, doesn't it? But are they really representative of Muslims? Even as early as 2010, there were about 13 million Muslims in the EU...there's certainly many more now. That means that AT MOST one out of every 325 Muslims either is or supports ISIS.

One out of every 325. That means the other 324 do NOT support terrorism, and that it is flatly wrong to blame Muslims or Islam itself for terrorism.

Many on the Right wonder why it is that Muslims haven't condemned the Brussels attack en masse...and here's the answer that one Muslim gave:

Because we’re driving the taxis that have been taking the population home for free since yesterday …
Because we’re caring for the wounded in hospitals …
Because we’re driving the ambulances that are racing through the streets like shooting stars to try to save what life remains in us …
Because we’re at the reception desks of the hotels that have been welcoming onlookers for free since yesterday …
Because we’re driving the buses, the trams, and the subway cars so that life can continue, though wounded …
Because we’re still looking for criminals in our police, investigator, and magistrate outfits …
Because we’re crying for our dead, too …
Because we are no more spared than anyone else …
Because we are doubly, triply bruised …
Because the same faith produced the executioner and the victim …
Because we’re groggy, lost, and we’re trying to understand …
Because we spent the night on our doorstep waiting for a person who won’t come back again …
Because we’re counting our dead …
Because we’re in mourning …
The rest is only silence …
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Many on the Right wonder why it is that Muslims haven't condemned the Brussels attack en masse...and here's the answer that one Muslim gave:

Because we’re driving the taxis that have been taking the population home for free since yesterday …
Because we’re caring for the wounded in hospitals …
Because we’re driving the ambulances that are racing through the streets like shooting stars to try to save what life remains in us …
Because we’re at the reception desks of the hotels that have been welcoming onlookers for free since yesterday …
Because we’re driving the buses, the trams, and the subway cars so that life can continue, though wounded …
Because we’re still looking for criminals in our police, investigator, and magistrate outfits …
Because we’re crying for our dead, too …
Because we are no more spared than anyone else …
Because we are doubly, triply bruised …
Because the same faith produced the executioner and the victim …
Because we’re groggy, lost, and we’re trying to understand …
Because we spent the night on our doorstep waiting for a person who won’t come back again …
Because we’re counting our dead …
Because we’re in mourning …
The rest is only silence …
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Not a single one of, or all together are good arguments not to condemn these suicide bombings!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are a terrorist sympathizer and apologist.
 
Orly? said:
Not a single one of, or all together are good arguments not to condemn these suicide bombings!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Who's not condemning them...isis? :doh
 
Fruityfact said:
Who's not condemning them...isis? :doh
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"Many on the Right wonder why it is that Muslims haven't condemned the Brussels attack en masse"
 
Orly? said:
"Many on the Right wonder why it is that Muslims haven't condemned the Brussels attack en masse"
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You read the line and assume that no Muslims anywhere has...and don't even try to actually determine if that's the case. Why? Because it's what you want to believe anyway.
 
Orly? said:
Not a single one of, or all together are good arguments not to condemn these suicide bombings!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are a terrorist sympathizer and apologist.
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It is, however, a very good argument as to why we should stop ****ing around in the Middle East.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
You read the line and assume that no Muslims anywhere has...and don't even try to actually determine if that's the case. Why? Because it's what you want to believe anyway.
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No, I'm sure many have, but you yourself state that "in masse" they have not..
 
Orly? said:
Not a single one of, or all together are good arguments not to condemn these suicide bombings!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are a terrorist sympathizer and apologist.
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There is a massive difference between condemning the suicide bombers, the islamic extremists, or even those who are sympathetic to these attackers and condemning every muslim.

The later is reprehensible and should be criticized as ignorant and damaging to both your person, the country you claim to represent, and the chances of stopping the next attack.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Muslim terrorists have staged major terrorist attacks in the following first-world nations: America, England, France, Russia, a couple small ones in Australia, and now Belgium. They're striking EVERYwhere, huh?

But wait. Are there nations where there's lots of Muslims that there's been no significant terrorist attacks? Let's see here: Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Solakia, Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Romania, Bulgaria, Denmark, Croatia, Ukraine...the list goes on.

So one must ask why it is that so many of these nations which DO have significant Muslim populations aren't having any significant terrorist attacks? Yes, there was some egregious crap going on in Germany during the New Year, but it wasn't a terrorist attack. Why haven't there been attacks in Italy and Spain, even though they've got significant Muslim populations?

What's the common denominator?

Belgium, we've since found, has a largely dysfunctional governmental system that makes it easy for bad people to fly under the radar. All the rest have been very active in military actions in the Middle East...whereas almost none of the rest have been militarily active to any significant extent in the Middle East. In other words, it would seem that terrorists who happen to follow Islam aren't at war with the West or with "Christianity"...but with those nations who have conducted the most military strikes in the Middle East.

One more thing - Fox News just reported that ISIS sent 400 fighters to Europe to make terrorist strikes. Generally speaking, it takes about 10 people in a military chain of logistics to keep one man on the fighting front. It's probably significantly less when it comes to terrorists, but let's stick with the 10-1 ratio. That means that there may be as many as 4000 trained ISIS fighters and their supporters in Europe. Sounds like a LOT, doesn't it? But are they really representative of Muslims? Even as early as 2010, there were about 13 million Muslims in the EU...there's certainly many more now. That means that AT MOST one out of every 325 Muslims either is or supports ISIS.

One out of every 325. That means the other 324 do NOT support terrorism, and that it is flatly wrong to blame Muslims or Islam itself for terrorism.

Many on the Right wonder why it is that Muslims haven't condemned the Brussels attack en masse...and here's the answer that one Muslim gave:

Because we’re driving the taxis that have been taking the population home for free since yesterday …
Because we’re caring for the wounded in hospitals …
Because we’re driving the ambulances that are racing through the streets like shooting stars to try to save what life remains in us …
Because we’re at the reception desks of the hotels that have been welcoming onlookers for free since yesterday …
Because we’re driving the buses, the trams, and the subway cars so that life can continue, though wounded …
Because we’re still looking for criminals in our police, investigator, and magistrate outfits …
Because we’re crying for our dead, too …
Because we are no more spared than anyone else …
Because we are doubly, triply bruised …
Because the same faith produced the executioner and the victim …
Because we’re groggy, lost, and we’re trying to understand …
Because we spent the night on our doorstep waiting for a person who won’t come back again …
Because we’re counting our dead …
Because we’re in mourning …
The rest is only silence …
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So Ismaël Saidi speaks for all Muslims?

I don't know for sure, but I'm fairly certain non-Muslim who drive taxis, mourning lost lives, etc., have managed to stand with their fellows to condemn the attacks.
 
Orly? said:
No, I'm sure many have, but you yourself state that "in masse" they have not..
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No, I did not state that they had not done so en masse. I stated "Many on the Right wonder why it is that Muslims haven't condemned the Brussels attack en masse"...meaning that those on the Right are ASSUMING that Muslims haven't and don't condemn the attacks.

And your posts above are proof of said assumption.
 
MrT said:
There is a massive difference between condemning the suicide bombers, the islamic extremists, or even those who are sympathetic to these attackers and condemning every muslim.

The later is reprehensible and should be criticized as ignorant and damaging to both your person, the country you claim to represent, and the chances of stopping the next attack.
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Who is condemning every muslim? Not me.. I know you oh so wish I would but I don't..
 
Glen Contrarian said:
No, I did not state that they had not done so en masse. I stated "Many on the Right wonder why it is that Muslims haven't condemned the Brussels attack en masse"...meaning that those on the Right are ASSUMING that Muslims haven't and don't condemn the attacks.

And your posts above are proof of said assumption.
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You are making things up to suit your preferences.. It does not say or imply any assuming, rather it raises a question against that as a stated fact...
 
ocean515 said:
So Ismaël Saidi speaks for all Muslims?

I don't know for sure, but I'm fairly certain non-Muslim who drive taxis, mourning lost lives, etc., have managed to stand with their fellows to condemn the attacks.
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1. Your "non-Muslim" line is a non-sequitur.

2. Your first sentence is addressed by the totals I included showing that significantly less than one percent of Muslims in Europe are part of or support ISIS. It only takes a handful of people to reflect poorly on a whole demographic. Add up all the "Islamic terrorist" attacks in America...and multiply it by ten to give plenty of allowance for logistical support...and then compare that number to the total number of Muslims in America. Again, significantly less than one percent. Unless, of course, you're one of those who believes Trump when he said he saw "thousands and thousands of Muslims celebrating in the streets in New Jersey" when the WTC was destroyed....
 
Orly? said:
You are making things up to suit your preferences.. It does not say or imply any assuming, rather it raises a question against that as a stated fact...
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Wrong. You are imputing the meaning you personally want to see, instead of trying to understand the context not just of the sentence, but of the OP as a whole. And that's not unusual - that's a rather common mistake that many readers make.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Muslim terrorists have staged major terrorist attacks in the following first-world nations: America, England, France, Russia, a couple small ones in Australia, and now Belgium. They're striking EVERYwhere, huh?

But wait. Are there nations where there's lots of Muslims that there's been no significant terrorist attacks? Let's see here: Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Solakia, Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Romania, Bulgaria, Denmark, Croatia, Ukraine...the list goes on.

So one must ask why it is that so many of these nations which DO have significant Muslim populations aren't having any significant terrorist attacks? Yes, there was some egregious crap going on in Germany during the New Year, but it wasn't a terrorist attack. Why haven't there been attacks in Italy and Spain, even though they've got significant Muslim populations?

What's the common denominator?

Belgium, we've since found, has a largely dysfunctional governmental system that makes it easy for bad people to fly under the radar. All the rest have been very active in military actions in the Middle East...whereas almost none of the rest have been militarily active to any significant extent in the Middle East. In other words, it would seem that terrorists who happen to follow Islam aren't at war with the West or with "Christianity"...but with those nations who have conducted the most military strikes in the Middle East.

One more thing - Fox News just reported that ISIS sent 400 fighters to Europe to make terrorist strikes. Generally speaking, it takes about 10 people in a military chain of logistics to keep one man on the fighting front. It's probably significantly less when it comes to terrorists, but let's stick with the 10-1 ratio. That means that there may be as many as 4000 trained ISIS fighters and their supporters in Europe. Sounds like a LOT, doesn't it? But are they really representative of Muslims? Even as early as 2010, there were about 13 million Muslims in the EU...there's certainly many more now. That means that AT MOST one out of every 325 Muslims either is or supports ISIS.

One out of every 325. That means the other 324 do NOT support terrorism, and that it is flatly wrong to blame Muslims or Islam itself for terrorism.

Many on the Right wonder why it is that Muslims haven't condemned the Brussels attack en masse...and here's the answer that one Muslim gave:

Because we’re driving the taxis that have been taking the population home for free since yesterday …
Because we’re caring for the wounded in hospitals …
Because we’re driving the ambulances that are racing through the streets like shooting stars to try to save what life remains in us …
Because we’re at the reception desks of the hotels that have been welcoming onlookers for free since yesterday …
Because we’re driving the buses, the trams, and the subway cars so that life can continue, though wounded …
Because we’re still looking for criminals in our police, investigator, and magistrate outfits …
Because we’re crying for our dead, too …
Because we are no more spared than anyone else …
Because we are doubly, triply bruised …
Because the same faith produced the executioner and the victim …
Because we’re groggy, lost, and we’re trying to understand …
Because we spent the night on our doorstep waiting for a person who won’t come back again …
Because we’re counting our dead …
Because we’re in mourning …
The rest is only silence …
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They lie to infidels. Welcome to Infidelville.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
1. Your "non-Muslim" line is a non-sequitur.

2. Your first sentence is addressed by the totals I included showing that significantly less than one percent of Muslims in Europe are part of or support ISIS. It only takes a handful of people to reflect poorly on a whole demographic. Add up all the "Islamic terrorist" attacks in America...and multiply it by ten to give plenty of allowance for logistical support...and then compare that number to the total number of Muslims in America. Again, significantly less than one percent. Unless, of course, you're one of those who believes Trump when he said he saw "thousands and thousands of Muslims celebrating in the streets in New Jersey" when the WTC was destroyed....
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That is a LIE!!!!!!

WLnwTF6.png


Source list: https://board.freedomainradio.com/t...th-about-about-the-brussels-terrorist-attack/
 
That is WAY WAY WAY WAY MORE than "significantly less than one percent "...

What you say is A STRAIGHT UP LIE!!
 
Glen Contrarian said:
You gave no source for your graphic...and the reference you did give uses as 'proof' such stellar sites as Infowars and Russia Today.

Dude. You really need to get out of the right-wing echo chamber.
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Your position is WRECKED...

Google it.. There are HUNDREDS of articles even in the MSM...

I'll find you some more sources, just a moment..
 
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Glen Contrarian said:
Muslim terrorists have staged major terrorist attacks in the following first-world nations: America, England, France, Russia, a couple small ones in Australia, and now Belgium. They're striking EVERYwhere, huh?

But wait. Are there nations where there's lots of Muslims that there's been no significant terrorist attacks? Let's see here: Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Solakia, Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Norway, Sweden, Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Romania, Bulgaria, Denmark, Croatia, Ukraine...the list goes on.

So one must ask why it is that so many of these nations which DO have significant Muslim populations aren't having any significant terrorist attacks? Yes, there was some egregious crap going on in Germany during the New Year, but it wasn't a terrorist attack. Why haven't there been attacks in Italy and Spain, even though they've got significant Muslim populations?

What's the common denominator?

Belgium, we've since found, has a largely dysfunctional governmental system that makes it easy for bad people to fly under the radar. All the rest have been very active in military actions in the Middle East...whereas almost none of the rest have been militarily active to any significant extent in the Middle East. In other words, it would seem that terrorists who happen to follow Islam aren't at war with the West or with "Christianity"...but with those nations who have conducted the most military strikes in the Middle East.

One more thing - Fox News just reported that ISIS sent 400 fighters to Europe to make terrorist strikes. Generally speaking, it takes about 10 people in a military chain of logistics to keep one man on the fighting front. It's probably significantly less when it comes to terrorists, but let's stick with the 10-1 ratio. That means that there may be as many as 4000 trained ISIS fighters and their supporters in Europe. Sounds like a LOT, doesn't it? But are they really representative of Muslims? Even as early as 2010, there were about 13 million Muslims in the EU...there's certainly many more now. That means that AT MOST one out of every 325 Muslims either is or supports ISIS.

One out of every 325. That means the other 324 do NOT support terrorism, and that it is flatly wrong to blame Muslims or Islam itself for terrorism.

Many on the Right wonder why it is that Muslims haven't condemned the Brussels attack en masse...and here's the answer that one Muslim gave:

Because we’re driving the taxis that have been taking the population home for free since yesterday …
Because we’re caring for the wounded in hospitals …
Because we’re driving the ambulances that are racing through the streets like shooting stars to try to save what life remains in us …
Because we’re at the reception desks of the hotels that have been welcoming onlookers for free since yesterday …
Because we’re driving the buses, the trams, and the subway cars so that life can continue, though wounded …
Because we’re still looking for criminals in our police, investigator, and magistrate outfits …
Because we’re crying for our dead, too …
Because we are no more spared than anyone else …
Because we are doubly, triply bruised …
Because the same faith produced the executioner and the victim …
Because we’re groggy, lost, and we’re trying to understand …
Because we spent the night on our doorstep waiting for a person who won’t come back again …
Because we’re counting our dead …
Because we’re in mourning …
The rest is only silence …
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Actually, there was a major hit in Spain and a number of failed ones in Germany.
 
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