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    China in the 21st Century

    China's government wants total power. BUT doesn't have what it takes to rule this world. So just hold our debt. AND know your role.
    China says opposes any unilateral sanctions against North Korea

    China says opposes unilateral sanctions on North Korea | Reuters

    Of course you do. Just as we would never accept any sanctions on Isreal. SO what you going do?China if we still go ahead and bring even more sanctions on this strange ass nation? Absolutely nothing.
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    Re: China in the 21st Century

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaygodmedia View Post
    China's government wants total power. BUT doesn't have what it takes to rule this world. So just hold our debt. AND know your role.
    China says opposes any unilateral sanctions against North Korea

    China says opposes unilateral sanctions on North Korea | Reuters

    Of course you do. Just as we would never accept any sanctions on Isreal. SO what you going do?China if we still go ahead and bring even more sanctions on this strange ass nation? Absolutely nothing.
    I cannot pretend to understand what benefit China gets by standing by North Korea,
    but there must be something.

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    Re: China in the 21st Century

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I cannot pretend to understand what benefit China gets by standing by North Korea,
    but there must be something.
    It is a knife they can twist in the side of the US every now and again.
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    Re: China in the 21st Century

    Quote Originally Posted by PakPuk View Post
    It is a knife they can twist in the side of the US every now and again.
    That is a benefit, but is it's value worth it's costs?

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    Re: China in the 21st Century

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    That is a benefit, but is it's value worth it's costs?
    Aid and protection is all they give and in return DPRK is China's puppet state.
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    Re: China in the 21st Century

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaygodmedia View Post
    China's government wants total power. BUT doesn't have what it takes to rule this world. So just hold our debt. AND know your role.
    China says opposes any unilateral sanctions against North Korea

    China says opposes unilateral sanctions on North Korea | Reuters

    Of course you do. Just as we would never accept any sanctions on Isreal. SO what you going do?China if we still go ahead and bring even more sanctions on this strange ass nation? Absolutely nothing.
    i could see china seeking international economic sanctions against israel
    will keep the USA from appearing so sanctimonious about defending indefensible activities
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: China in the 21st Century

    Quote Originally Posted by PakPuk View Post
    Aid and protection is all they give and in return DPRK is China's puppet state.
    Yes but it is a nasty self automated puppet, that has the potential to embarrass China.

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    Re: China in the 21st Century

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Yes but it is a nasty self automated puppet, that has the potential to embarrass China.
    China knows their predictable and pathetic actions. Sometimes when they get too aggressive they start threatening the aid and usually North Korea backs down but it depends what China wants.
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    Re: China in the 21st Century

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I cannot pretend to understand what benefit China gets by standing by North Korea,
    but there must be something.
    There's not much benefit persay.

    The answer is a few fold.

    1. Provides a buffer between itself and an American friendly nation on its border.

    2. North Korea is what it is now, by keeping it stable and repressive, they stop a flood of economic refugees flooding across the border.

    3. And something new I didn't understand before, there's a massive public health risk behind number 2. North Koreas health system is virtually non existence, there's a huge amount of diseases that run rampant in DPRK including anti-biotic resistant strains of TB. That flood of refugees in the case of collapse could bring things like this into China.

    In any case for China, they're playing the card they're dealt, it's as tough a situation for them as for the west, but the collapse of the NK state carries more risk in their eyes... But they do recognize that the status quo can't continue. They're just clueless as to how to deal with it.

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    Re: China in the 21st Century

    China can turn North Korea into a colony tomorrow if they wanted, but that will cost the cheap bastards money, plus they don't want a sudden influx of North Koreans flooding into their country starving and looking for handouts. China sees spies, troublemakers, and starving bands of refugees. And worst of all, they are "not Chinese".

    China claims to have the "long view", but really they don't. They are flying by the seat of their pants just like everyone else. The long game, IMO, is Kim will be assassinated at some point and China will "stabilize" the country to prevent a unification with the south and we'll have a North Korea 2.0.
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