cascadian

Agreed. Nuclear bombs wouldn't have made the slightest difference to the Japanese had we dropped them

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bhkad

Ahhh. Then becuase you continue on your rant without any change in course we must assume you tacitly approve of the curriculum of Sayyed Qutb.

Friends, we have a Jihadist sympathizer here.

You shall be treated as a hostile poster.

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Trajan Octavian Titus

Ya umm you do know what MAD is right? Considering that the Japanese didn't have nuclear weapons how exactly does your statement make even the slightest bit of sense? Anywho dropping the bombs got the Japanese to surrender but many in the military class even then wanted to continue the war and even engaged in a failed coup against the emperor.

cascadian

You could use a little lesson on deductive and inductive reasoning. You don't seem capable of the former and unaware that you are participating in the latter.

I could get caught up in defending myself against baseless allegations, but then I would be playing your game. If your "discussion" consists entirely of assigning ridiculous motivations, I will treat you like a "hostile poster" and ignore you.

cascadian

So your saying Islamist do have nuclear weapons? You made the comparison between fascists and Islamists. If you feel it doesn't fit into the MAD discussion, then I don't have any problem dropping it.

Harshaw

MAD only works if the other side minds being destroyed.

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Stinger

Does MAD work?

Has it ever not worked?

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Trajan Octavian Titus

I stated quite clearly that MAD will not work with Islamist nations; such as, Iran nor would it have worked with Fascist nations like Nazi Germany because they are based on an irrationalist ideology.

Volker

WMD's had been used in military actions in WWI, but they had not been used in military actions in WWII, at least not in a larger scale in Europe as far as I know. Several countries had WMD technology in WWII, but it was not widely used against military. That MAD worked even during WWII would be a good explanation.

WMD's had been used during WWII when there was no fast chance for striking back by the attacked group, by the US against Japan and by Nazi's against Jewish people in concentration camps.

DivineComedy

Good point.

We just have to let MAD work on their buddies that do care.

Take Iran for instance. If they believe they can hasten along judgment day, or the Mahdi, preemption is preferable to MAD. At this time we cannot afford to use preemption with Iran, as we couldn’t get enough support in the world for war and restoring international peace and security due to One Iraq, Two Iraq, Three Iraq! So we should continue working on SDI and ground defenses, but that is not enough. We need the force of diplomacy, which coming from the Great Satan means nothing, so we need for others to believe it is in their interests to help us. This is the warning about mindless chants of “Death to America“: if any Shiite terrorist nukes so much as one of our cities, we stand there at the UN and say, “we own that land, all of it, forever.” We rename it “New Persia” (and put a new star on our flag), and if the indigenous population doesn‘t like it, we treat them worse than we did the Indians (no reservations). Any nation that wants to live will accept our new State, because we are MAD I tell you, MAD.

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