Holocaust Denial query

MickB · 06-06-07, 01:13 PM

It has always interested me to know how some people were able to assert with great passion that the Nazi genocide never occurred.

I would have thought real bona Nazis would have taken a grim satisfaction from knowing that kind of thing.

Or is it because, as with those of the far-Left, that the neo-Nazis still see a purity in their basic ideas which the reality would only serve to sour?

Perhaps I've answered my own question.

Onine · 07-02-07, 12:18 PM

It was more than just the Jewish people. The Nazi's were slaughtering my people too, the poles. They were enemies of humanity. They will remain enemies of humanity forever.

Volker · 07-02-07, 12:41 PM

The Nazi's practized Holocaust denial themselves, one could say they invented it. Hitler did not want to have it public when it started, because he was thinking, people will not understand it. Only very few people should know about it and they should not talk it about or write it down, it should be a secret.

This politics changed later, because they wanted to have more organizational support and they made the circle of people who knew larger. Himmler gave a speech about it and this speech is on tape. So there were a few hundred people from the army and the Nazi party who knew about it.

However, there were rumours. There are polls made after the war, where between 25 to 40 per cent of Germans said they did know about mass murdering against Jewish people.

Contemporary Holocaust denial, when it comes from the right-wing camp, is more about making Jewish people look bad, I guess.

MickB · 07-03-07, 03:26 PM

It's interesting how Muslims are also as hot as Nazis at denying the Holocaust. Hence the Tehran conference to 'debate' whether the killing programme ever occurred.

Indeed, there's little to seperate Islam and Nazism, both as they are being death cults fostering a psychopathic emulation in otherwise normal people.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/intern...uslims-ha.html and BBC NEWS | Education | School edits controversial books shows up the natural results of spreading hate not hope.

To a liberal Westerner the concept of an evil religion is absurd, the very idea of religion to us being the pursuit of inner peace. Like Hitler, Muhammad created a megalomaniacal mystic creed designed to wipe out every other culture, Judaism a main enemy. No wonder books like Mein Kampf are big sellers in places like Palestine or Saudi Arabia.

Virtually all of my Polish family were never seen again after the Germans landed during the war. So to see Muslims going about as determined as the Nazis to wreck, loot, murder and maim just turns my blood, particularly when the Muslims don't get the punishment, proscription, witch-hunt and hounding that white nutcases receive for their thoughts in Europe.

To make matters worse our Leftist masters pander to Muslims and seek to empathise. Community leaders always threaten riots and mayhem on our streets if their 'community' can't get its own way. I tell you, if we ordinary people behaved like Muslims we'd all be in the dock so fast our heads would spin. Instead the buggers are paid off with bribes so they won't cause any more bother. Paying the untouchables Protection Money is what that's termed.

Good job I don't run the world, else both Muslims and Nazis alike would receive the same punitive enslavement which they, their pals and mentors keenly inflict upon a battered and desensitised world. And serve them bleeding well right.
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Delight in more Islamic enrichment........

cherokee · 07-03-07, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Onine

It was more than just the Jewish people. The Nazi's were slaughtering my people too, the poles. They were enemies of humanity. They will remain enemies of humanity forever.

I agree.
Your people will never be forgotten...

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On September 1, 1939, Germany invaded Poland and World War II began. Within one month, the Polish army was defeated and the Nazis began their campaign to destroy Polish culture and enslave the Polish people, whom they viewed as "subhuman." Killing Polish leaders was the first step: German soldiers carried out massacres of university professors, artists, writers, politicians, and many Catholic priests. To create new living space for the "superior Germanic race," large segments of the Polish population were resettled, and German families moved into the emptied lands. Thousands of other Poles, including Jews, were imprisoned in concentration camps. The Nazis also "kidnapped" as many as 50,000 "Aryan-looking" Polish children from their parents and took them to Germany to be adopted by German families. Many of these children were later rejected as not capable of Germanization and sent to special children's camps where some died of starvation, lethal injection, and disease.

Vader · 07-03-07, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MickB

It's interesting how Muslims are also as hot as Nazis at denying the Holocaust. Hence the Tehran conference to 'debate' whether the killing programme ever occurred.

Indeed, there's little to seperate Islam and Nazism, both as they are being death cults fostering a psychopathic emulation in otherwise normal people.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/intern...uslims-ha.html and BBC NEWS | Education | School edits controversial books shows up the natural results of spreading hate not hope.

To a liberal Westerner the concept of an evil religion is absurd, the very idea of religion to us being the pursuit of inner peace. Like Hitler, Muhammad created a megalomaniacal mystic creed designed to wipe out every other culture, Judaism a main enemy. No wonder books like Mein Kampf are big sellers in places like Palestine or Saudi Arabia.

Virtually all of my Polish family were never seen again after the Germans landed during the war. So to see Muslims going about as determined as the Nazis to wreck, loot, murder and maim just turns my blood, particularly when the Muslims don't get the punishment, proscription, witch-hunt and hounding that white nutcases receive for their thoughts in Europe.

To make matters worse our Leftist masters pander to Muslims and seek to empathise. Community leaders always threaten riots and mayhem on our streets if their 'community' can't get its own way. I tell you, if we ordinary people behaved like Muslims we'd all be in the dock so fast our heads would spin. Instead the buggers are paid off with bribes so they won't cause any more bother. Paying the untouchables Protection Money is what that's termed.

Good job I don't run the world, else both Muslims and Nazis alike would receive the same punitive enslavement which they, their pals and mentors keenly inflict upon a battered and desensitised world. And serve them bleeding well right.
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Delight in more Islamic enrichment........

Most people who deny the holocaust are doing so because they hate the jews and want to do whatever they can to be as passively offensive as they can.

Iran took this type of ignorance to a whole new level; forever branding Iran as a state composed of ignorant, biggotus, islamic hatemongers.

Your people may be gone, MickB, but they will never be forgotten.

Auftrag · 10-04-07, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MickB

It has always interested me to know how some people were able to assert with great passion that the Nazi genocide never occurred.

Many neo-"Nazis" do not deny that "Nazi's" killed 'undesirables' but that this killing was no on an industrial scale, which is what jews and the liberal democracies of the west assert.

Auftrag · 10-04-07, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Volker

The Nazi's practized Holocaust denial themselves, one could say they invented it. Hitler did not want to have it public when it started, because he was thinking, people will not understand it.

Well, more on a practical level it would give the allies a justification for their war (which they didn't have) and could perhaps strengthen opposition to the regime.

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Contemporary Holocaust denial, when it comes from the right-wing camp, is more about making Jewish people look bad, I guess.

Their numbers just don't add up.

Auftrag · 10-04-07, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vader

Most people who deny the holocaust are doing so because they hate the jews and want to do whatever they can to be as passively offensive as they can.

I deny that 6 million people killed. And I don't "hate" jews, I just think as a race, they are destructive and imperialist. Some could say that was ironic, I would say it was self-defence.

CaptainCourtesy · 10-04-07, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Auftrag

I deny that 6 million people killed. And I don't "hate" jews, I just think as a race, they are destructive and imperialist. Some could say that was ironic, I would say it was self-defence.

Jews are not a race. Since there is so much evidence that approximately 6 million died, denial of this is prejudicial in nature and shows nothing but hatred. Your self-defense argument is a complete fallacy, and has been incorrectly peddled by Jew-haters since the '20s. Shall we continue a debate you and I started over a year ago?