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Putin Defends Soviet-Nazi Pact

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November 6, 2014

Vladimir V. Putin has revised his opinion of an important piece of Soviet history, calling the 1939 Molotov-Ribbentrop pact that Moscow signed with Nazi Germany to divide up Eastern Europe not so bad. The statement is likely to increase security concerns in Eastern European states, which have been jittery about Russia’s intentions ever since it seized Crimea in March.

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Crimea was Putin's Sudetenland. Now he's about to lop off more of Ukraine.
 
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President Vladimir V. Putin has revised his opinion of an important piece of Soviet history, calling the 1939 Molotov-Ribbentrop pact that Moscow signed with Nazi Germany to divide up Eastern Europe not so bad. “The Soviet Union signed a nonaggression treaty with Germany,” Mr. Putin said during a meeting with historians on Wednesday, according to a Russian transcript of the meeting that the Kremlin released Thursday. “People say: ‘Ach, that’s bad.’ But what’s bad about that if the Soviet Union didn’t want to fight? What’s bad about it?” While the Soviet Union is accused of dividing Poland, he said, Poland actually seized part of Czechoslovakia when Germany attacked that country. “Serious research should show that those were the methods of foreign policy then,” Mr. Putin said. Five years ago he had called the very same pact “immoral.” The statement is likely to increase security concerns in Eastern European states, which have been jittery about Russia’s intentions ever since it seized Crimea in March. Mr. Putin signed a law in May mandating five years imprisonment for anyone convicted of trying to rehabilitate Nazism.

As for me, I have never thought the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was bad for USSR.
 
Do you think that it will help Russia now? :roll:

What - now?

The pact allowed to move border several hundreds kilometres westward. Keeping in mind the German advance was stopped just 40 kilometres from Moscow, highly likely those kilometres were decisive.
 
As for me, I have never thought the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was bad for USSR.
It gave Hitler a green light which didn't work out too well for Poland and its 3 million Jews.
 
Simpleχity;1063953393 said:
It gave Hitler a green light which didn't work out too well for Poland and its 3 million Jews.

Green light was given to Hitler long before Germany invaded Poland.

Munich Betrayal - ever heard about this?

Munich Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Phoney war:

Phoney War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your lovely wikipedia.

France and Great Britain together, especially if they had maintained a close contact with Russia, which certainly was not done, would have been able in those days in the summer, when they had the prestige, to influence many of the smaller States of Europe, and I believe they could have determined the attitude of Poland. Such a combination, prepared at a time when the German dictator was not deeply and irrevocably committed to his new adventure, would, I believe, have given strength to all those forces in Germany which resisted this departure, this new design.
 
Simpleχity;1063953347 said:
Crimea was Putin's Sudetenland. Now he's about to lop off more of Ukraine.

He is a very slick operator. But I think he might have chosen too high a pitch too early for global circumstances. It might be playing well to some European and even American audiences, very much like Hitler did in the mid to late 1920s and even early 1930s. But I doubt he can grab legitimacy in a widely spread way.
 
But I doubt he can grab legitimacy in a widely spread way.
Although he tries, it's difficult to peddle legitimacy via illegitimate actions.
 
I once bought a snow and gave it to my mother, she was happy, now I love the girls, but not cats and birds
 
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