Mach

Picking fruit all day is hard work.
No way I'd work that hard unless I had to, or unless it far surpassed by current earnings, and had longevity/future earnings potential, etc.

I thought people got educated and worked hard at hard jobs, in an effort to compete with others to get the more cushy jobs. Some people have less opportunity due to language, nationality, parents (friends/teachers/mentors, etc.). They get the shaft of course, but other systems don't appear to have a more efficient solution.

-Mach

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Gipper

Rogue, you're making yourself sound like some overcompensated union guy whose job could be done by a retarded monkey.

I've seen the type. Guys at the Delphi plant started complaining hard that they were lowering wages so they couldn't make $30 an hour for essentially doing nothing. Now that they're only making 15 an hour, they have to alter their lifestyles. It's funny if you ask me.

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Rogue

Why do you keep resorting to examples of union "featherbeding" abuses as an excuse to justify subjecting low skilled America CITIZENS to a flood of ILLEGAL Mexican poverty reject SCABS by the scumbag employers of illegals. Just doing your job?

Mach

I can assure you that progressive regulation of business tends to be more liberal, not conservative. Government regulation advocacy is typically liberal, not conservative. Entitlements, well, whether it's true or not it's claimed by conservatives that liberals are all about entitlements.

Mexicans did not raise the prise of gas, make china and india boom, or move more of the wealth to the wealthy and out of the hands of the middle class. Sorry, damn mexicans aren't to blame here. Capitalism is the primary cause.

Attacking capitalism, attacking the government for not providng more entitlement, attacking big business/employers, attack the lack of more regulation (politics/government). To me it reads as though you're thoroughly opposed to conservative/republican propoganda, and thoroughly in favor of liberal/democratic propoganda.

Did I get any of that correct? I'm basing that off what is written.

-Mach

Rogue

Liberals do tend to be more about entitlements than conservatives.

Traditional capitalism built American to be a world power with the highest standard of living in history. The neocon form of capitalism is corrupt to the core. Throw American tradition and values out the window if it will make a profit.

You couldn't be further from the truth. I am very conservative but I don't readily identify with the current Neocon brand of Republicanism. The Neocons are anything but traditional Republicans, which I tend to be more like. To set you straight, what I said what that the average unskilled American has a right to be protected by the fed gov from a horde of ILLEGAL Mexican scabs. What I said was that the employers of illegals must be FORCED to stop hiring illegal Mexican scabs if we're going to stop the illegal Mexican invasion. What I said was the the fed gov is totally dysfunctional, run by and for the ruling elite.

No, I don't exactly follow the propaganda of either party. What I do believe, though, is that the majority of the Republican politicians are fighting illegal immigration while the majority of the Democratic politicians are fighting the Republican politicians fighting illegal immigration. The Democratic politicians are all about pandering to hispanics for votes and trying to engineer an amnesty knowing that the majority of these illegal aliens for the most part would be Democratic voters, even if it corrupts the voting process and ruins the country.