jfuh

That's not the same as stealing a job from someone else. But again, which jobs are illegals stealing and how are they going about in actively stealing these jobs? How do you "steal" a job?

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jfuh

Might have something to do with the fact that no one actually "supports" illegals hence why no one is answering your rhetorical question.
Most people on this site see beyond simple talking points or partisan rhetoric.

Kali

Umm.. You are just trying to mess with me now. The hell it is not stealing. I am not sure what world you are living in but when you have people that use fake SS#, etc? that go in for jobs? That IS Stealing! When you have these places giving jobs to illegals THAT is stealing! What is sooooooooo hard to understand about this??

How do you steal a job? Umm.. Let us think here... You go in and apply and hope like hell you do not get caught being an illegal and if you get the Job? Wow! Yipppeee! You just commited a crime and are taking a job that some legal could have filled! But guess that does not matter because you do not give a **** about the people here in a legal fashion because all you care about is breaking the laws and trying to get those jobs so you can make a living-a living that you are NOT entilted to MAKE! WHY? Because you are not here in a legal fashion!

Kali

Really? You seem to support illegals and if I had to guess? I bet you either have illegal family here or some illegal friends.

jfuh

Stealing would be taking something that does not belong to you without any permission.
Did the job that the illegal get hired for ever "belong" to anyone else? Did they not have permission to take them? Why are you calling the illegal as stealing the job when it was given to them by the employer? The fault is not that of the illegals for being hired for the job but that of the employers for knowingly giving the job to someone who's status is illegal.
Again, that's not stealing, and no I'm not trying to mess with your mind, but simply asking for you to put the blame where it rightfully is.

Again, that's not stealing. This is not about me or what my position may or may not be. You want to present your case then make a strong argument for it. As of yet I've not seen any credible evidence that jobs were "stolen".

jfuh

Are you here for a shoutfest or are you here to debate?
Let's just say for the hell of it that I am an illegal immigrant myself or that I strongly support illegal immigration - how has that taken anything away from the fact that you've not supported your own premise?
Support your own argument - debate - this is not a shouting fest you want to do that go down to the basement or sewer. Certainly you've been around here long enough to know that.

mikhail

Its what the money means to you.But i would say its basically a load of crap i mean people are individuals some are hardworking some arent.theres a conformation bias to this people have a preconception on way or the other and suddenly all immigrants work harder or are they suck.

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Bodhisattva

jfuh is ILLEGAL! I knew it. Call the INS somebody...

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Kali

Where did I SHOUT???? I did NOT! <----- Til right there.. And I made the points I needed to make not my fault you cannot grasp them. Illegals do steal jobs and milk our system. These are facts and there is no room for debate because it is pretty clear cut: they are illegal and commit crimes and should be sent home. Period. End of Subject. What is so hard to grasp about That?

Kali

Calling INS would not help because they cannot seem to do their job.

jfuh does not seem to be able to grasp the fact that illegals are milking our system and stealing jobs. Jobs in this country are suppose to go to people that are LEGAL. Period.