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Rapists, drug dealers, and toddlers...

Good for her!!


As far as her parents, I'd break some laws too if my daughter had the chance to get such an education she becomes valedictorian and is able to live a way better life.
 
Socrates1 said:
Taxpayers are the victims . Hard working parents go without to put their children in college and have to pay back huge student loans . And others hop a fence , get everything free and mock you later . :shock:
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I don't mind paying taxes to educate children, regardless of their status. If you do, then I'm sure there's something you support that I don't, so it can even out.
 
clownboy said:
Indeed. Because of her an American citizen will not get that full ride scholarship. The entire family should be immediately deported and none of them allowed to apply for return until they've paid back every dime of our money they've used to educate her. She's a thief. Used to be only her parents were thieves, but now she's joined the crew and is proud of it.
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Amen ! The next crop of lawless democrats .
 
americanwoman said:
I don't mind paying taxes to educate children, regardless of their status. If you do, then I'm sure there's something you support that I don't, so it can even out.
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First get a job , then pay taxes . It's not novel democrats love taxes , it's the paying part that eluded them . And of course it doesn't bother you American citizens have to have BOTH parents working and going into debt with student loans , while fence jumpers get everything free , got it . :roll:
 
Socrates1 said:
First get a job , then pay taxes . It's not novel democrats love taxes , it's the paying part that eluded them . And of course it doesn't bother you American citizens have to have BOTH parents working and going into debt with student loans , while fence jumpers get everything free , got it . :roll:
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Of course it bother me to have American parents going into debt to educate their children, show me where I said it didn't. Also, based on your sentence structure, you may want to take more advantage of free education. ;)
 
americanwoman said:
I don't mind paying taxes to educate children, regardless of their status. If you do, then I'm sure there's something you support that I don't, so it can even out.
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I understand, and some folks do see that as a compassionate thing. But though you don't mind, others do. The proper way to deal with this is to follow the law, deport the parents and this just won't be an issue. If you want to pay for an illegal to attend school here, go for it, I'm sure it will be appreciated.
 
clownboy said:
Being here illegally is a criminal act. So yes mens rea does apply. An illegal should not be valedictorian, she has stolen that opportunity and the resulting scholarship from an American child. She is well aware she is doing it.
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Not the first time you do it, it's a civil action like a ticket for 5mph over the speed limit.

and regardless it's federal law, education and universities are state entities governmened by state law, and the legislature of the State of Texas has decided to allow illegal immigrants who are children to attend k-12 education and attend college subject to the same requirements as any other Texas resident. hence she followed the law in attending school and recieving the full ride to Univ of Tex. since Texas state law does not describe this act as theft it is not theft. an act is only such if the law defines it as.

if you have an issue with this you should directing your complaints to

Chairman, Senate Education Committee
The Honorable Sen Larry Taylor (R)
P.O. Box 12068
Capitol Station
Austin, TX 78711
 
Dittohead not! said:
Exactly.
Or, better yet, they don't get any government services or jobs until they go back to their home country and apply. People like the young lady in this article get a quick ride back and legal status. The criminals, drop outs, and no goods stay home.

It's far and away better than building a wall, whether it's a physical wall or simply a wall of hate, don't you think?
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It shouldn't either/or, we could make our border more physically secure, while still working towards humane solutions to the "good" illegal immigrants. I lean towards a "bonded immigrant" program myself with BIG penalties for hiring illegal immigrants. I'd also like to see high volume avenues of ingress get reinforced with both physical and man power reinforcements. Another change I'd like to see is a reciprocal agreement with any nation that wants to allow their citizens to immigrate here, where they agree to jail anyone from their nation who is convicted of a crime here for the period that they are sentenced to (yes, that would include the crime of illegal immigration).
 
clownboy said:
Being here illegally is a criminal act. So yes mens rea does apply. An illegal should not be valedictorian, she has stolen that opportunity and the resulting scholarship from an American child. She is well aware she is doing it.
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Native born English speaking students were out competed by a native Spanish speaker whose family has to keep looking over their shoulders in fear if the immigration authorities, who have experienced disadvantages only they can fully understand, and in an English speaking school.

They should be ashamed.
 
clownboy said:
Yeah, yeah. I agree that they should have zero access to any social services - but that is not in fact what happens (witnessed by this thread OP). I agree that employers who knowingly hire illegals should get the shaft, but again, that is not what happens, or when it does it doesn't happen enough. Nothing will absolutely stop people from breaking the law. Doesn't mean we don't enforce the law.

The wall we have has been effective, finishing the job will be even more effective.
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The wall will be nothing. It will never be built. Were it built, it would not be effective. The law that needs to be enforced is the one making it illegal to hire illegal immigrants, but, as you said, it isn't being enforced. Instead, we demonize the economic refugees and call them "criminals." The real criminals are the politicians who refuse to enforce immigration laws and who give lip service to a stupid wall idea, not the illegal aliens.
 
Dittohead not! said:
The wall will be nothing. It will never be built. Were it built, it would not be effective. The law that needs to be enforced is the one making it illegal to hire illegal immigrants, but, as you said, it isn't being enforced. Instead, we demonize the economic refugees and call them "criminals." The real criminals are the politicians who refuse to enforce immigration laws and who give lip service to a stupid wall idea, not the illegal aliens.
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It would be very effective. the fencing that currently exists is diverting smuggling to areas where the fence does not, and has caused the prices of smugglers to skyrocket.

clearly it is effecting their operations.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
It would be very effective. the fencing that currently exists is diverting smuggling to areas where the fence does not, and has caused the prices of smugglers to skyrocket.

clearly it is effecting their operations.
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It would be oh, so effective, sure:

Since 2001, US law enforcement has discovered more than 100 tunnels along the border with Mexico.
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Effective at fooling people into thinking that the government is actually addressing the issue of illegal immigration, that is.
 
americanwoman said:
Of course it bother me to have American parents going into debt to educate their children, show me where I said it didn't. Also, based on your sentence structure, you may want to take more advantage of free education. ;)
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If you bother to read , then you would have seen where WORKING American get NOTHING free .:shock: Short attention span ! :roll:
 
Dittohead not! said:
It would be oh, so effective, sure:



Effective at fooling people into thinking that the government is actually addressing the issue of illegal immigration, that is.
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and building tunnels costs money, especially when they're located, destroyed, and have to be replaced.

it is far harder to move things by tunnel then simply walk in. Seriously, you should a bank security consultant

"yeah that safe stuff, don't even waste your money, you should be prosecuting bank thieves, because there's been 30 bank hiests where they've just built tunnels and cracked the floor of your building with a bottle jack, so no alarms, no safe all it does is tell your customers you're serious about security, it doesn't work"

you could make millions at this.
 
Socrates1 said:
If you bother to read , then you would have seen where WORKING American get NOTHING free .:shock: Short attention span ! :roll:
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each valedictorian at each Texas high school is given a seat and scholarships for U Tex.

It's also not a "full ride" as been described, it is simply a waiver of tuition.

Highest Ranking Graduate
 
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EMNofSeattle said:
and building tunnels costs money, especially when they're located, destroyed, and have to be replaced.

it is far harder to move things by tunnel then simply walk in. Seriously, you should a bank security consultant

"yeah that safe stuff, don't even waste your money, you should be prosecuting bank thieves, because there's been 30 bank hiests where they've just built tunnels and cracked the floor of your building with a bottle jack, so no alarms, no safe all it does is tell your customers you're serious about security, it doesn't work"

you could make millions at this.
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If they'd give me just 1/10 of 1% of the money we'd save by not building a stupid wall, I'd make millions.
 
Socrates1 said:
They are wrong but you know for sure . Doesn't matter , it's plain wrong .
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Again, take it up with the Texas senate.

I don't do undefined morality, I do defined law
 
Socrates1 said:
If you bother to read , then you would have seen where WORKING American get NOTHING free .:shock: Short attention span ! :roll:
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So you are telling me that Americans who work never receive snap, medicaid, or child care welfare?
 
Crovax said:
Well she certainly proved that for all that education she didn't learn a damn thing. The internet is everywhere and the internet is forever. How can a kid growing up these days not understand that? she pretty much just destroyed her college chances and any future job prospects.
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She can always get a job as a professional protester holding signs that say "make America Mexico Again".
 
EMNofSeattle said:
each valedictorian at each Texas high school is given a seat and scholarships for U Tex.

It's also not a "full ride" as been described, it is simply a waiver of tuition.

Highest Ranking Graduate
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It' not a "full ride" either...

The Highest Ranking Graduate program provides a tuition waiver for the student graduating at the top of their high school class for their freshman year of college.
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