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Hillary Clinton says U.S.-Mexico border is now secure

azgreg said:
It would be so much more cost efficient to eliminate the incentive than to attempt to secure the border.
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It sure would.
Now, if only the government were into being cost efficient.
 
VanceMack said:
No...it doesnt. Its a lie, and you know it. The border is hell and gone from 'secure'. Promoting a lie to just ignore a problem solves nothing. Worse...it makes you look either a-stupid, if you believe the lie or b-a liar, if you repeat the lie.
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Or factually accurate when Hillary Clinton said that net migration rates from Mexico are zero. I could go further and note that the, in terms of raw numbers, the amount of individuals that are migrating to the United States are Mexico are the lowest since the 1970s.

From those two facts alone, Hillary Clinton can make the very reasonable opinion that the border is secure enough to focus on other problems associated with illegal immigration.

But no, you go ahead and keep touting for a wall that will cost a minimum of 25 billion dollars to build, not to mention an additional 25 billion every seven years for maintenance, and that will not work.
 
MrT said:
Or factually accurate when Hillary Clinton said that net migration rates from Mexico are zero. I could go further and note that the, in terms of raw numbers, the amount of individuals that are migrating to the United States are Mexico are the lowest since the 1970s.

From those two facts alone, Hillary Clinton can make the very reasonable opinion that the border is secure enough to focus on other problems associated with illegal immigration.

But no, you go ahead and keep touting for a wall that will cost a minimum of 25 billion dollars to build, not to mention an additional 25 billion every seven years for maintenance, and that will not work.
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Horse****. It is a lie. The border is not secure. That you will try to use lies to defend it speaks volumes of you.
 
VanceMack said:
Horse****. It is a lie. The border is not secure. That you will try to use lies to defend it speaks volumes of you.
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Volumes like "uses research, facts, and data to drive a valid argument instead of simply repeating accusations of lying."
 
jamesrage said:
This is why you don't trust those who say secure the border first and then grant amnesty. Because lying sacks of **** like Clinton will falsely claim the border is secure so now lets grant amnesty.

Hillary Clinton says U.S.-Mexico border is secure - Washington Times
Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton said Thursday that the southwest border is secure enough that the government should now turn its attention to trying to legalize illegal immigrants.
In an interview with KTAR radio in Phoenix, Mrs. Clinton said improvements under President George W. Bush and President Obama, including several hundred miles of fencing, have cut net illegal immigration from Mexico to zero.
“Now I think it’s time to turn our attention to comprehensive immigration reform,” she said, using the term immigrant rights advocates use for legislation to legalize the 11 million illegal immigrants now in the country.
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Hillary is taking advantage of the poor economy that driving away some illegal immigrants and saying it's all thanks to Obama and Dubya's policies. In a way she's right.
 
MrT said:
Volumes like "uses research, facts, and data to drive a valid argument instead of simply repeating accusations of lying."
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Suffices when in fact you are lying. You are lying. You bring in ridiculous arguments to try to draw attention away from your deliberate lie. It doesnt work. You are lying. You claim the border is secure KNOWING you are lying. You try top introduce a semantic argument regarding numbers that may or may not be going home (or giving honest responses to census questions) knowing that has nothing to do with a secure border. You then start talking about the cost of a wall knowing that has nothing to do with a secure border. You are lying. Knowingly. Which again...says all I ever need to know about you.
 
VanceMack said:
Suffices when in fact you are lying. You are lying. You bring in ridiculous arguments to try to draw attention away from your deliberate lie. It doesnt work. You are lying. You claim the border is secure KNOWING you are lying. You try top introduce a semantic argument regarding numbers that may or may not be going home (or giving honest responses to census questions) knowing that has nothing to do with a secure border. You then start talking about the cost of a wall knowing that has nothing to do with a secure border. You are lying. Knowingly. Which again...says all I ever need to know about you.
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Alright Vance, you've made your point. You are insane, I get it.

You can move on. I am.
 
MrT said:
Alright Vance, you've made your point. You are insane, I get it.

You can move on. I am.
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Another lie. Dont worry...I expect nothing less from you. Sadly...from now on I'll expect nothing more.
 
azgreg said:
It would be so much more cost efficient to eliminate the incentive than to attempt to secure the border.
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That might be true.But what happens if we get another pro-illegal in office? The incentives get put right back in place.
 
VanceMack said:
No...it doesnt. Its a lie, and you know it. The border is hell and gone from 'secure'. Promoting a lie to just ignore a problem solves nothing. Worse...it makes you look either a-stupid, if you believe the lie or b-a liar, if you repeat the lie.
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This is why you can't trust any one who says we'll secure the border first and then grant amnesty. Because there are plenty of lying sacks of **** out there who will falsely claim the border is secure in order to grant amnesty. This is why I don't trust Marco Rubio.
 
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