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MickeyW

MickeyW

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Illegal immigration has become the "topic de jour". So many pundits and bloggers have based their arguments on how this land is made up of immigrants. One blogger suggested that we should tear down the Statue of Liberty because the people now in question aren't being treated the same as those who passed through Ellis Island and other ports of entry

Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out why today's American is not willing to accept this new kind of immigrant any longer. Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to the United States, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in New York and be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground.

They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times. They made learning English a primary rule in their new American households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.

They had waved good-bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture.
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Assimilation is overrated.
 
Van Basten said:
Nope, it is critical.
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There's a difference between integration and assimilation. Attempting to keep any culture "pure" and static is folly.
 
MickeyW said:
Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground.
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Are you claiming that doesn't happen today?

They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times.
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Are you claiming that doesn't happen today?

They made learning English a primary rule in their new American households
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Study debunks myth that early immigrants quickly learned English

and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.
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Long live bigotry?

They had waved good-bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture.
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This nation was never one culture.

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Do spare us.
 
MickeyW said:
Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to the United States, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in New York and be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground. They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times. They made learning English a primary rule in their new American households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.
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That's a very rose-tinted view of history. Assimilation in the 19th and early 20th Century took decades longer than it does for immigrants today. Several reasons:

1. Today we have a far more globalized culture. There's far less of a "gap" that must be bridged. (Honestly children in rural Kenya can watch dubbed American movies on their secondhand iPads.)

2. Our education systems are far superior than they were 60+ years ago. Non-English speaking kids have programs focused specifically towards them, which is contrasted to when most kids didn't even go to school.

3. Native-born Americans are much more welcoming of immigrants today. There's obviously still problems, but you don't see the blatant, accepted-in-polite-society Nativism and xenophobia that existed in the 19th and early 20th Centuries.
 
ecofarm said:
There's a difference between integration and assimilation. Attempting to keep any culture "pure" and static is folly.
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Both are important.

American culture is anything but pure and I like that it that way. So, purity wasn't on my mind.
 
Van Basten said:
Both are important.

American culture is anything but pure and I like that it that way. So, purity wasn't on my mind.
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Something can be important yet over-rated, depending on the presentation.
 
Van Basten said:
Nope, it is critical.
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So which "American culture" should immigrants to the US assimilate to? Is it okay for Mexican immigrants to "assimilate" into Mexican American culture where Spanish is the dominant language and everyone practices customs that originated in Mexico?
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Assimilation is overrated.
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certainly is.....

Van Basten said:
Nope, it is critical.
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Yep........... and it ain't happening!

ecofarm said:
Are you claiming that doesn't happen today?



Are you claiming that doesn't happen today?



Study debunks myth that early immigrants quickly learned English



Long live bigotry?



This nation was never one culture.



Do spare us.
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Spare you? From a lot of Truth while you cover your ears and hide somewhere? Ok......
 
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POLL: Most U.S. Muslims would trade Constitution for Shariah...


'Quran should be highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion'
Poll: Most U.S. Muslims would trade Constitution for Shariah

Dem mayors ask Obama for more refugees...
Mayors from eighteen U.S. cities signed a letter to President Obama saying they are willing to take even more refugees than what has been proposed by the administration.

“We will welcome the Syrian families to make homes and new lives in our cities,” wrote the mayors, all of whom are part of the Cities United for Immigration Action coalition.
Mayors Of Eighteen U.S. Cities Tell Obama They Are Ready To Take More Syrian Refugees | The Daily Caller

Stupid is as stupid does and these bleeding heart, bozo Americans, are Fools!



Resettlement Raises Fears in S Carolina...


'They don't plan to assimilate'...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/26/u...yria-raises-fears-in-south-carolina.html?_r=0
 
I vehemently object to this nonsense! (Cities United for Immigration Action coalition.)

It's just another liberal, feel good, circle jerk!
 
MickeyW said:
Spare you? From a lot of Truth while you cover your ears and hide somewhere? Ok......
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Truth, with a capital 't', is a sure sign of an idiotic position.
 
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