• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Republican Governors to File Lawsuits against Obama Amnesty......

MMC

MMC

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 26, 2012
Messages
56,981
Reaction score
27,029
Location
Chicago Illinois
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Private
GOP Governors can file State Lawsuits against BO's Amnesty. Looks like Right out the gate it will be Perry and Abbot out of Texas. Walker and a few others are calling to do the same. This is another wy to legally go after BO's order. Should all 33 Republican Governors file? What say ye?



GOP governors attack Obama's immigration order.....

The nation's Republican governors on Wednesday lashed out at President Barack Obama's plans to unilaterally protect millions of immigrants from deportation, but clashed over whether their congressional colleagues should threaten a government shutdown in response.

The issue dominated the first full day of the Republican Governors Association annual meeting, where a half-dozen potential presidential candidates addressed an issue that could weigh heavily in the GOP's wide-open presidential primary.....snip~

GOP governors attack Obama's immigration order | CNS News
 
MMC said:
GOP Governors can file State Lawsuits against BO's Amnesty. Looks like Right out the gate it will be Perry and Abbot out of Texas. Walker and a few others are calling to do the same. This is another wy to legally go after BO's order. Should all 33 Republican Governors file? What say ye?
Click to expand...

I think this is just grandstanding by the Governors at this point and putting the cart before the horse. We don't know yet what exactly Obama is going to do yet. These are just threats at this point.

There are a few ways that Obama can legally do this, although I don't support them. There are also ways he could flat out do it illegally and then I wouldn't have a problem with the GOP trying to nail him.

Bottom line is since we don't know exactly what Obama is doing, it is all pure speculation at this point. After today we will know more.
 
MMC said:
GOP Governors can file State Lawsuits against BO's Amnesty. Looks like Right out the gate it will be Perry and Abbot out of Texas. Walker and a few others are calling to do the same. This is another wy to legally go after BO's order. Should all 33 Republican Governors file? What say ye?



GOP governors attack Obama's immigration order.....

The nation's Republican governors on Wednesday lashed out at President Barack Obama's plans to unilaterally protect millions of immigrants from deportation, but clashed over whether their congressional colleagues should threaten a government shutdown in response.

The issue dominated the first full day of the Republican Governors Association annual meeting, where a half-dozen potential presidential candidates addressed an issue that could weigh heavily in the GOP's wide-open presidential primary.....snip~

GOP governors attack Obama's immigration order | CNS News
Click to expand...

No one knows whether Obama will even issue an executive order, much less what will be in it. The governors are simply getting their names in the news, nothing more.
 
And people wonder why confidence in our government is at historic lows...
 
TheNextEra said:
I think this is just grandstanding by the Governors at this point and putting the cart before the horse. We don't know yet what exactly Obama is going to do yet. These are just threats at this point.

There are a few ways that Obama can legally do this, although I don't support them. There are also ways he could flat out do it illegally and then I wouldn't have a problem with the GOP trying to nail him.

Bottom line is since we don't know exactly what Obama is doing, it is all pure speculation at this point. After today we will know more.
Click to expand...

No fair using common sense - this is partisan politics! ;)
 
Maybe republicans shouldn't fight this so hard. After all, if the rationale for Obamas executive action is that 'he waited long enough' and 'congress has refused to act' and 'the system is broken' then other issues can be addressed by executive fiat as well. Like tax reform. Since the tax code is a mess and we have waited for ever and congress has done nothing about it, the next president can re-write the tax code by executive order. I am sure liberals will fall right in line.
 
Fletch said:
Maybe republicans shouldn't fight this so hard. After all, if the rationale for Obamas executive action is that 'he waited long enough' and 'congress has refused to act' and 'the system is broken' then other issues can be addressed by executive fiat as well. Like tax reform. Since the tax code is a mess and we have waited for ever and congress has done nothing about it, the next president can re-write the tax code by executive order. I am sure liberals will fall right in line.
Click to expand...

Then think again because if you think every liberal is in line with BO's actions then you're wrong.

Also, I'm inclined to agree with thenextera, there are ways Obama can do this legally and illegally, we must wait and see.
 
Luftwaffe said:
Then think again because if you think every liberal is in line with BO's actions then you're wrong.

Also, I'm inclined to agree with thenextera, there are ways Obama can do this legally and illegally, we must wait and see.
Click to expand...

I think you are right. Before one gets all hyper it is best to wait and see what exactly the president is going to do.
 
ahhhh, gotta love the smell of "fiscal conservatives" throwing tax dollars away fighting a losing court battle to create spectacle for reelection
 
Fletch said:
Maybe republicans shouldn't fight this so hard. After all, if the rationale for Obamas executive action is that 'he waited long enough' and 'congress has refused to act' and 'the system is broken' then other issues can be addressed by executive fiat as well. Like tax reform. Since the tax code is a mess and we have waited for ever and congress has done nothing about it, the next president can re-write the tax code by executive order. I am sure liberals will fall right in line.
Click to expand...

I do not think the argument of waited too long really hold water. The Republican House sent over 200 plus passed bills to the senate and they are still waiting action sitting in Harry Reid's top left hand drawer. So it is hypocritical to use the old you waited too long when no action on taken on the other bills.
 
SlevinKelevra said:
ahhhh, gotta love the smell of "fiscal conservatives" throwing tax dollars away fighting a losing court battle to create spectacle for reelection
Click to expand...
That's silly. If the president takes an action that the opposing party believes the Constitution doesn't grant him the authority to make, what would you have them do? Nothing?
 
Perotista said:
I do not think the argument of waited too long really hold water. The Republican House sent over 200 plus passed bills to the senate and they are still waiting action sitting in Harry Reid's top left hand drawer. So it is hypocritical to use the old you waited too long when no action on taken on the other bills.
Click to expand...
I don't think its a good argument either. But it is one I have heard liberals defending Obama use.
 
MMC said:
GOP Governors can file State Lawsuits against BO's Amnesty. Looks like Right out the gate it will be Perry and Abbot out of Texas. Walker and a few others are calling to do the same. This is another wy to legally go after BO's order. Should all 33 Republican Governors file? What say ye?



GOP governors attack Obama's immigration order.....

The nation's Republican governors on Wednesday lashed out at President Barack Obama's plans to unilaterally protect millions of immigrants from deportation, but clashed over whether their congressional colleagues should threaten a government shutdown in response.

The issue dominated the first full day of the Republican Governors Association annual meeting, where a half-dozen potential presidential candidates addressed an issue that could weigh heavily in the GOP's wide-open presidential primary.....snip~

GOP governors attack Obama's immigration order | CNS News
Click to expand...

Well at least one of them possesses some form of common sense.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker suggested that his party should pursue a lawsuit to block Obama's plans instead of a government shutdown. He described immigration reform as important, but not as important as the economy, taxes, energy and education, and accused Obama of using the issue as a "cynical ploy" to disrupt Republicans from pursuing other agenda items.
Click to expand...


Not unsurprisingly it comes from a midwesterner. ;)
 
Fletch said:
I don't think its a good argument either. But it is one I have heard liberals defending Obama use.
Click to expand...

What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Fair is fair. If the senate is going to hold up 200 plus house passed bills with no vote on them, then the House can hold up 1 bill passed by the senate. The argument of having waited long enough makes no sense on the inaction of the house when their Democratically controlled senate has done it over 200 times.
 
Fletch said:
That's silly. If the president takes an action that the opposing party believes the Constitution doesn't grant him the authority to make, what would you have them do? Nothing?
Click to expand...

did that "opposing party" think it was unconstitutional when Reagan did it?
where in the constitution are EO's prohibited?
when was the last time SCOTUS invalidated one?

oh.
 
SlevinKelevra said:
did that "opposing party" think it was unconstitutional when Reagan did it?
where in the constitution are EO's prohibited?
when was the last time SCOTUS invalidated one?

oh.
Click to expand...

Were any of them in office when Reagan did it?
 
Perotista said:
What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Fair is fair. If the senate is going to hold up 200 plus house passed bills with no vote on them, then the House can hold up 1 bill passed by the senate. The argument of having waited long enough makes no sense on the inaction of the house when their Democratically controlled senate has done it over 200 times.
Click to expand...

the what?
 
SlevinKelevra said:
are they not always saying "WE NEED ANOTHER REAGAN!!!!!"
?

seems like they're getting what they asked for.
Click to expand...

I don't know, are they? I don't hear conservatives talk about Reagan that much these days.
 
SlevinKelevra said:
did that "opposing party" think it was unconstitutional when Reagan did it?
where in the constitution are EO's prohibited?
when was the last time SCOTUS invalidated one?

oh.
Click to expand...
Clearly, you haven't been paying attention. Perhaps you might familiarize yourself with Obamas own statements made over the last couple of years where he says he has no authority to do what he is about to do.
 
Fletch said:
Clearly, you haven't been paying attention. Perhaps you might familiarize yourself with Obamas own statements made over the last couple of years where he says he has no authority to do what he is about to do.
Click to expand...


Clearly, you're assuming I'm in favor of it (meh) and a supporter of Obama (nope).
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom