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    California makes it more offical that they are Sanctuary state.

    I bet Obama won't sue California over this. Californians will be kicking themselves in their ass in twenty years because while most of the states in the country will have little to no illegals California will be filled to the brim with illegals.


    California Senate passes "anti-Arizona" immigration bill - Yahoo! News
    SACRAMENTO (Reuters) - The California Senate passed a bill on Thursday that seeks to shield illegal immigrants from status checks by local police and challenges Republican-backed immigration crackdowns in Arizona and other U.S. states.
    The Democrat-led state Senate voted 21 to 13 to approve the California Trust Act, dubbed by supporters as the "anti-Arizona" bill. It blocks local police from referring a detainee to immigration officials for deportation unless that person has been convicted of a violent or serious felony.
    "Today's vote signals to the nation that California cannot afford to be another Arizona," Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, a Democrat who sponsored the measure, said in a statement.
    "The bill also limits unjust and onerous detentions for deportation in local jails of community members who do not pose a threat to public safety," he added.
    The bill has the backing of about 100 immigrant rights groups, police chiefs and mayors. It has already passed the Democrat-controlled state Assembly in a 47-26 vote and will go back to the Assembly for a concurrence vote following the summer recess before heading to Democratic Governor Jerry Brown.
    The measure seeks to create a national model to counter what backers say is racial profiling inherent in a part of Arizona's crackdown on illegal immigration that was allowed to stand by the U.S. Supreme Court last week.
    In passing the bill, California stands apart not only from Arizona, but also Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, South Carolina and Utah, which have all adopted strict laws in the past two years to try to discourage illegal immigrants from settling in their states.
    On June 25, the top U.S. court upheld the most controversial aspect of Arizona's immigration statute: a requirement that police officers check the immigration status of people they stop, even for minor offenses such as jay-walking.
    Opponents have argued that Arizona's law could lead to illegal racial or ethnic profiling of Hispanics in the state, while backers say it is needed because the federal government has failed to secure the border with Mexico.
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    Re: California makes it more offical that they are Sanctuary state.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I bet Obama won't sue California over this.
    On what basis would he sue? Are you saying that states MUST help the Federal gov't in enforcing its laws? I am not sure I've ever heard that. Please elaborate.
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    Re: California makes it more offical that they are Sanctuary state.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    On what basis would he sue? Are you saying that states MUST help the Federal gov't in enforcing its laws? I am not sure I've ever heard that. Please elaborate.
    States shouldn't be encouraging illegal immigration.
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    Re: California makes it more offical that they are Sanctuary state.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I bet Obama won't sue California over this.
    Naturally not. Obama only sues those states which support federal law and otherwise challenge his Imperial Presidency.
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    Re: California makes it more offical that they are Sanctuary state.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    States shouldn't be encouraging illegal immigration.
    Regardless whether that would have any basis in law, I will provisionally grant it for now and ask: Do you think they might just say "We aren't encouraging it, we are simply not wanting our resources devoted to enforcing it. We want our officers focused on correctly and accurately performing the many responsibilities bestowed upon them by the state government"?
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    Re: California makes it more offical that they are Sanctuary state.

    hate to say this but cali has allowed illegals to reap benefits for awhile now,and since allowing illegals to use the social safety net,california went from one of the most solvent and productive states to one of the most broke,by handing out money to illegals but recieving tax money back from them.
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    Re: California makes it more offical that they are Sanctuary state.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    On what basis would he sue? Are you saying that states MUST help the Federal gov't in enforcing its laws? I am not sure I've ever heard that. Please elaborate.
    The same bases against AZ. Immigration is a federal issue. Not a State issue.

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    Re: California makes it more offical that they are Sanctuary state.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    California Senate passes "anti-Arizona" immigration bill - Yahoo! News
    SACRAMENTO (Reuters) - The California Senate passed a bill on Thursday that seeks to shield illegal immigrants from status checks by local police and challenges Republican-backed immigration crackdowns in Arizona and other U.S. states.
    The Democrat-led state Senate voted 21 to 13 to approve the California Trust Act, dubbed by supporters as the "anti-Arizona" bill. It blocks local police from referring a detainee to immigration officials for deportation unless that person has been convicted of a violent or serious felony.
    What brave frontiersmen these California politicians willing to sacrifice their political career on something the Supreme Court and Obama had already done.

    Actually this is identical to the law in Arizona now, after the Supreme Court ruling and an Obama decision.

    "Today's vote signals to the nation that California cannot afford to be another Arizona," Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, a Democrat who sponsored the measure, said in a statement.
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    Re: California makes it more offical that they are Sanctuary state.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    The same bases against AZ. Immigration is a federal issue. Not a State issue.
    That argument cuts the other way. CA is saying they are going to stay out of immigration law.
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    Re: California makes it more offical that they are Sanctuary state.

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    That argument cuts the other way. CA is saying they are going to stay out of immigration law.
    Why the heck would you need to pass a law stating that? Another political slanted law that is not needed. Lets pass another law saying we are not going to do something, even though the SC ruled the States have no authority in that area. (nothing personal,but that is what gives lawyers and politicians a bad name).

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