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    AZ SB 1070 to be repealed

    AZ senator Steve Gallardo is starting the process. . .

    Amid shouts from those on both sides of the issue, Sen. Steve Gallardo, D-Phoenix introduced legislation on Monday to repeal the controversial two-year-old immigration law.

    AZ Dems. pushing repeal of controversial SB 1070 law - East Valley Tribune: East Valley Local News

    The article goes on to say that this specific bill is dead in the water, but it won't hurt Gallardo's career either way since he's in a district with a lot of Latinos, which means he'll fare better than the state senator (Russel Pearce) who wrote the original bill was immediately fired for it

    Furthermore, even if that legislation gets canned, another bill will be drafted to repeal it, effectively rendering any SCOTUS decision moot.

    Of course, a lot of conservatives likely don't believe that such a bill will be repealed so easily, but, alas, it reflects a basic ignorance about how politics works. . .

    There's a general principle of politics that holds that the more conservative a state/municipality/govt. is, the greater the influence of businesses in that state over the laws. IN theory, an ultra-conservative state (i. e. AZ), then, is a plutocracy.

    In a plutocracy, businesses ultimately write all the laws, using pols merely as a front to create the illusion of democracy--in practice this translates to using financial influence to oust pols that compromise their business interests.

    And since AZ businesses don't like SB 1070 (since it impedes their ability to hire or work with undocumented laborers or entrepreneurs), they will ensure that any pol that defends its presence will be ousted just like Russel Pearce.

    So Gallardo is just playing politics--he knows that even if his bill doesn't succeed, he'll get re-elected both due to Latino support and business support because he stood up for it.

    But every other pol in AZ knows they will inevitably have to support its repeal if they value their jobs










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    Re: AZ SB 1070 to be repealed

    It's funny, if AZ really were a plutocracy, how did SB1070 get written and passed in the first place?
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    Re: AZ SB 1070 to be repealed

    It is interesting that many elected officials in Arizona who oppose SB1070 do not or will not address the illegal immigration issue faced by the State in a meaningful manner. Gallardo and Wilcox being two that come to mind. They pander to the hispanic vote. Which is politically motiviated for keeping that vote.

    IMO, SB1070 will not be repealed by Arizona. At least not in the near future.
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    Re: AZ SB 1070 to be repealed

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    It's funny, if AZ really were a plutocracy, how did SB1070 get written and passed in the first place?
    From my post. . .

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica
    In a plutocracy, businesses ultimately write all the laws, using pols merely as a front to create the illusion of democracy--in practice this translates to using financial influence to oust pols that compromise their business interests.

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    Re: AZ SB 1070 to be repealed

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    From my post. . .
    So from your post business wrote SB1070. So why would it now need to be replealed if businesses are for it? Your not making any sense.
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    Re: AZ SB 1070 to be repealed

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    AZ senator Steve Gallardo is starting the process. . .
    I do not see him being successful. Most likely he is just pandering to pro-illegal scum for votes and he is fully aware that his efforts are in vain. So you shouldn't hold your breath.
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    Re: AZ SB 1070 to be repealed

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not see him being successful. Most likely he is just pandering to pro-illegal scum for votes and he is fully aware that his efforts are in vain. So you shouldn't hold your breath.
    How can his efforts be in vain if it helps him win re-election ?

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    Re: AZ SB 1070 to be repealed

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    So from your post business wrote SB1070. So why would it now need to be replealed if businesses are for it? Your not making any sense.
    Seems you don't get how plutocracies work. When I say businesses write laws, it means that they have the power to force pols to write the laws in their favor due to their ability to force them out of office if they don't.

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    Re: AZ SB 1070 to be repealed

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    It is interesting that many elected officials in Arizona who oppose SB1070 do not or will not address the illegal immigration issue faced by the State in a meaningful manner. Gallardo and Wilcox being two that come to mind. They pander to the hispanic vote. Which is politically motiviated for keeping that vote.

    IMO, SB1070 will not be repealed by Arizona. At least not in the near future.
    SB 1070 will be repealed by the AZ legislature or rendered useless (by banning all means of enforcing it) in less than 2 years, assuming the SCOTUS doesn't do it first

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    Re: AZ SB 1070 to be repealed

    Plutocratic govts. are for sale to anyone. An outsider w/billions in his/her pocket can just buy up a few seats in the AZ House or Senate and make short work of SB 1070

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