Thread: California Dream Act's opponents gather signatures

Originally Posted by jamesrage

The definition of undocumented mentions nothing about illegality.

The word "undocumented" is an adjective and can be applied to more things than i care to count. It has evolved into a one word slang referencing immigration status, but the word itself does not refer to any one thing. Nor does the word Illegal.

This from a person using the term documented because he is afraid pro-illegals will call him a racist or distract from the issue.The fact that were are even having this discussion means they are successful in dictating at what you say.

Ive actually already been called a racist by someone on this forum today. It didnt really hurt me then either. The fact that YOU brought up this discussion to begin with means they are successful in dictating what you say, or rather DONT say, which is the same thing.
I dont understand why you have taken to insulting me just because i wont stick to your agreed upon terminology. Your throwing around words like afraid, and racist (a liberal tactic) in an attempt to bully me into admiting that i said something wrong. Im not afraid of being called racist, because the WORD alone does not make it so.

At this point, are you just arguing to argue? Do you want me to apologize for saying undocumented?

Originally Posted by Dpetty

The word "undocumented" is an adjective and can be applied to more things than i care to count. It has evolved into a one word slang referencing immigration status, but the word itself does not refer to any one thing. Nor does the word Illegal.

No matter what the word illegal is attached it tells you some thing is illegal.Illegal immigration,illegal weapons, illegal drugs.Undocumented does not imply something is illegal or legal.For example if I hire my neighbors kid to mow my lawn and paid him 20 bucks under the table to mow my lawn, he is an undocumented worker.If someone came here legally and accidentally lost all their immigration documents then they are an undocumented immigrant.

Ive actually already been called a racist by someone on this forum today. It didnt really hurt me then either.

That's what libs generally do when they can't win a argument.If they can't win a argument then they pull out the race card. It doesn't matter what the argument is.

The fact that YOU brought up this discussion to begin with means they are successful in dictating what you say, or rather DONT say, which is the same thing.
I dont understand why you have taken to insulting me just because i wont stick to your agreed upon terminology. Your throwing around words like afraid, and racist (a liberal tactic) in an attempt to bully me into admiting that i said something wrong. Im not afraid of being called racist, because the WORD alone does not make it so.

At this point, are you just arguing to argue? Do you want me to apologize for saying undocumented?

If you are actually against illegal immigration I want to realize the error of aiding pro-illegals in their attempts to change illegal to undocumented. BY aiding pro-illegals in their attempts to change the terms you make it seem as though there is something wrong with calling a spade a spade and thus will make it harder to fight illegal immigration.

Originally Posted by jamesrage

For example if I hire my neighbors kid to mow my lawn and paid him 20 bucks under the table to mow my lawn, he is an undocumented worker.

Keep it down, this is illegal too. Dont want the IRS getting wind of it!

If you are actually against illegal immigration I want to realize the error of aiding pro-illegals in their attempts to change illegal to undocumented. BY aiding pro-illegals in their attempts to change the terms you make it seem as though there is something wrong with calling a spade a spade and thus will make it harder to fight illegal immigration.

I am against illegal immigration, but i dont feel the need to prove that to you or anyone else. I personaly dont feel that using one word over the other, even though i do use the term illegal, aides them in their cause. Thats like saying if i talk to an illegal immigrant (providing i can find one that speaks english) then i must be pro immigration.

Originally Posted by Dpetty

Keep it down, this is illegal too. Dont want the IRS getting wind of it!

My point that undocumented doesn't imply illegal alien or illegal immigrant still stands.

I am against illegal immigration, but i dont feel the need to prove that to you or anyone else. I personaly dont feel that using one word over the other, even though i do use the term illegal, aides them in their cause. Thats like saying if i talk to an illegal immigrant (providing i can find one that speaks english) then i must be pro immigration.

This doesn't have squat to do with talking to an illegal.This has to do with using pro-illegal propaganda and aiding pro-illegals in their attempt to change the word illegal to the word undocumented. Words project a certian image in people's minds.This is why the pro-illegal alien camps insists on changing illegal to undocumented. For example if we changed crack dealer to alternative medicine provider it changes that image in most people mind of a negative individual to a positive one.People wouldn't automatically think a scum of society when they think alternative medicine provider. Thus it would easier to defend that crack dealer and their actions as well as that crack dealer's suppliers. Illegals use the term undocumented to hide the illegality of the issue in order to try to make it easier to defend illegal immigration.

Originally Posted by jamesrage

My point that undocumented doesn't imply illegal alien or illegal immigrant still stands.




This doesn't have squat to do with talking to an illegal.This has to do with using pro-illegal propaganda and aiding pro-illegals in their attempt to change the word illegal to the word undocumented. Words project a certian image in people's minds.This is why the pro-illegal alien camps insists on changing illegal to undocumented. For example if we changed crack dealer to alternative medicine provider it changes that image in most people mind of a negative individual to a positive one.People wouldn't automatically think a scum of society when they think alternative medicine provider. Thus it would easier to defend that crack dealer and their actions as well as that crack dealer's suppliers. Illegals use the term undocumented to hide the illegality of the issue in order to try to make it easier to defend illegal immigration.

Ok. Im not arguing with you.