Volker

We have been to a garden yesterday in Kharkov(Ukraine), which is a very nice one by the way and I have found something interesting. The poster from the restaurant to the outside has the name and the offers on it, while the inside contains a reprint of a Cherokee newspaper from 1828, it is called "Cherokee Phoenix". It is partly written in Cherokee language and partly written in English language. There is a Cherokee only language version, too, but the reprint had both languages.

It has some interesting articles. The first part was about people who want to work in Cherokee Nation, they could do so. They were looking for blacksmiths and ferrimen and some other professions. They could have 12 acres of land to cultivate if they came there.

If I get it right, the Cherokee Nation actually had something like a flat tax for shop owners at this time. It is not even more flat than in Slovakia, where businesses pay 19 per cent. It was $25 per annum for long-term stores and $80 per annum for temporary stores. To have a long-term store, you had to be a citizen of the Cherokee Nation.

Alcohol could have been imported only by citizens, it was not allowed for merchants who were not citizens.

If empoyees stole something, the employer got hold responsible.

At the end of the reprint there was a letter from the US President, where he addressed the people as Beloved Cherokees. It was about agricultural development with cattles and sheeps and about spinning and weaving.

I came to DebatePolitics from a forum which was founded and owned by ThePhoenix, who is a Cherokee, too.

cherokee

What's your point, or do you even have one?

Lightdemon

Did you expect this was some sort of slight against you?


It is an interesting peice of history. Considering that most Americans think of bow and arrows when we hear Native Americans. We don't exactly think newspapers.

....and of all places...Ukraine?!

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cherokee

Here is a link to the rest of the story.
The Cherokee Phoenix

For some reason I just don't believe him.......

Lightdemon

?

What prompts this disbelief? Is there some agenda?

I don't really see anything controversial...

Volker

This is exactly, what I am thinking.

cherokee

A gut feeling. volker is always up to something.
He's like a used car salesman.

Volker

I don't see this either.

I spend every evening there, but not with my laptop. Now you guys actually made me walk the 200 meters over there to take this photos

This is closer.




This is not so close.



The newspaper is on the side to the restaurant in the middle, you can only see the other side in the third photo.

shuamort

I had a roommate in college was from northeastern Oklahoma and was part Cherokee. We actually worked on learning the language a bit more in depth for fun (my idea of fun is a bit different, I guess). I can still remember some of it. IIRC:
(O)see-yo: Hello
Dto-hee-chu?: How are you
Tchooch: Lil buddy.

cherokee

"O see yo" and "O see yoh" is the English Phonetic
the Cherokee phonetic is "o si yo" but its not the only way.


Thats one of the things thats make learning the language so hard is the several ways to pronounce the same word or phrase.

NC meets OK....