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And we waited until we were attacked and had to waste a lot of U.S. lives in the process fighting the Japanese in WW2.

Maybe invasions do not prevent war as that is too idealistic, but they do reduce it's effects I believe.

Bagdhad or Mosul would of seen a lot more carnage in the future in my opinion. The entire region probably and it doesn't compare to WW2. I read that 4 million Indonesians (Civilians) died in WW2. We probably could of averted this back then if we were proactive.

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That did wonders for us leading up to WW2, and then the results of the war. The reality is the U.S. has to take the lead in the World.

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I guess if you think that all of the money we are investing to protect us and the world could be better spent on pantsh@tting social programs here at home, then we probably aren't doing a good job I suppose.

I think our government has done a great job in my opinion to take the lead to protect us since 9/11. You can still work in America and better your life. It's really not that bad compared to the rest of the world.

John1234

That sounds fine so long as we know the very large difference between Leading and Conquering or Bullying.

jallman

No, I don't think the current generation would have the grit to fight a war like the Great Wars. War has become so detached and mechanized that we have lost our instinct for brutal warfare like our forefathers fought. I think this is in large part due to the coverage that war gets and the spin the media puts on it. Our media blurs the lines between innocent and enemy and so our compassionate impulses are magnified and our ability to realistically recognize danger is suppressed. In the past, winning a war was acheiving not only a surrender of the enemy, but leaving them with a long lasting reminder of what it meant to challenge a country's might and global dominance. Wars today are no more than skirmishes when you compare them to the epic struggles of the past. I think this, in the end, is worse because I believe these skirmishes will just be more and more frequent and ultimately more destructive. In the past, when a war was fought, the face of the earth changed and the wheat was separated from the chafe. The way we fight a war today, nothing is ever really accomplished and the underlying causes of the conflict are left festering. Eventually, I think it is all going to boil over and we will see war of the likes we have never seen and there is a strong possibility that life on earth will be changed forever in a way that may destroy all that we have accomplished.

The worst things that ever happened to this planet were the development of ballistic missiles and their importance to diplomacy. The arms race forced diplomacy to be the crutch of the weaker nation and over time that use of diplomacy has undermined our natural, human instinct to destroy an enemy. We have become soft.

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It wasn't US isolationism that led to war in Europe, it was Franco-British appeasement of the fascist dictators.

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franco-british appeasement?

Uh, OK, do you guys have different history books over there?

I was under the impression that it was the UK that stood up to the hun . . .


but WTF.

REVISIONIST HISTORY FTW!

We knew Pearl Harbor was coming, and we sat, we watched, we waited and we lulzed.

We had decrypted the Japaneses variant on the enigma code months before hand, and as you spags needed a kick up the arse to join the war ... we forgot to tell you ...

GySgt

Um...no. I am refering to that, apperantly, little known Gulf War that occurred where the entire international community, to include Arab nations, felt that Saddam Hussein's existence, however horrible he was to his people, was worth preservation.

Again.... Hitler was a dictator and Saddam was a dictator. Hitler attacked beyond his borders once, while Hussein attacked beyond his borders twice and funded suicide bombers. Europeans, to include Germans, were spared any future dictator issues from Hitler. Middle Easterners, to include Iraqis, were deemed unworthy of such attention. Why? The answer to this is why we were wrong in '91 and why we were not wrong in '03.

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And this is the biggest lie spouted off by protestors of them all. Nazis invaded Poland to plant German flags and control people's destiny. The invasion into Saddam Hussein's Iraq has resulted in an Iraq where the people are in complete control of their destiny....just like they are in Afghanistan. But Afghanistan was a war of revenge and this is exactly what America is supposed to stand for isn't it? Like every other place we have gone, we will not be adding a 51st state.


Well we can say that the carnage in Baghdad and Mosul is nothing compared to what Muslims go thourgh periodically in Muslim countries then. Better? The slaughter was whole sale in the Iraq/Iran war and the genocide in Sudan is well documented. And like Baghdad and Mosul, Muslims have slaughtered Muslims.

Honesty and complete truth does work.

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Right, I agree with that, and the U.S. wasn't prepared and we ended up in both world wars helping the allies. We let Germany rebuild her military during the 1930's. I think Churchill was the only one who knew Hitler for the nut job that he was early on.

My point was that we can't just side idle and say. Let's just let Iran be Iran and Iraq be Iraq. We paid that price with Germany and Japan. Or Pakistan, India right now as we have to be the mediator. We have to invest in our foreign policy now more than ever.

Let's keep opening Walmart's and KFC's in China giving the people there more choices so we don't see the red guard ever again. Let's keep an eye on Chavez in Venezuela. Being pro-active should be goal. Research and development should be our goal even though we don't have all the answers.