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Old 05-12-08, 03:38 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Could this generation stomach the carnage of world war 2?

Only if Europe was threatened.
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Old 05-12-08, 08:33 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Could this generation stomach the carnage of world war 2?

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Of course the Millennials would be able to stomach it. We just don't have the right cause. Most of us disagree with the decision to invade Iraq.
You have the right cause - 9/11 - you just didn't show up. No surprise there.

Modern American generations have each had a distinct challenge to meet.

My father's generation met and overcame their challenge - fascism - in WW2.

My generation met and overcame their challenge - marxism - in the Cold War.

You generation is looking their challenge - militant islam - in the face and blinking.

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Re: Could this generation stomach the carnage of world war 2?

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Sacrifice for what? Oil? no.
I would do it for Oil. Oil is the only thing that keeps this country alive and "progressive". Without it, we are back in the 18th century.
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Old 05-13-08, 12:54 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Hundreds of thousands died in World War 2. Could this generation handle that, or would our country be too divided to make such a sacrifice now?
Look, if you took a WWII soldier TODAY, and put him up against a modern American soldier (let alone civilian), the old codger would win...he'd hobble up to the modern soldier and brain him with his walker while the kid was trying to boot his computer.
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You have the right cause - 9/11 - you just didn't show up. No surprise there.

What does that have to do with Iraq?
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Old 05-13-08, 12:39 PM   #36 (permalink)
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You have the right cause - 9/11 - you just didn't show up. No surprise there.

Modern American generations have each had a distinct challenge to meet.

My father's generation met and overcame their challenge - fascism - in WW2.

My generation met and overcame their challenge - marxism - in the Cold War.

You generation is looking their challenge - militant islam - in the face and blinking.
Maybe if we were fighting militant islam instead of trying to play cops and robbers in desert, that'd be different. My generation cares about Afghanistan, we want to catch OBL, we just don't want to be in the completely pointless war in Iraq.

And before you start wanking off about your generation, which one of our generations had the counterculture hippies burning their draft cards?
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Sacrifice for what? Oil? no.
Why not?

We can practice apathy as hundreds of millions live in oppression for it. We can shake the hands of dictators as they control stability for it. We can sacrifice out of revenge. We can destroy our values for it. Why can't we actually sacrifice for oil? Why can't we sacrifice and install a democracy over oil wells instead of making the local people sacrifice for us under our dictators?
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Why not?

We can practice apathy as hundreds of millions live in oppression for it. We can shake the hands of dictators as they control stability for it. We can sacrifice out of revenge. We can destroy our values for it. Why can't we actually sacrifice for oil? Why can't we sacrifice and install a democracy over oil wells instead of making the local people sacrifice for us under our dictators?
For the same reason that we kicked the Iraqi forces out of Kuwait in '91.
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Thread Starter Re: Could this generation stomach the carnage of world war 2?

Thanks all for replying as I've learned a lot. I created this thread because I was comparing the attitudes of today with the assumed attitudes of World War 2. Was the generation different? A different cause? or could you turn WW2 into a complex issue making as many gradations as the Iraq conflict? I think you could. I'm making the assumption that if the WW2 generation had the same amount of information as today, they may be as divided as the generation today, 60's generation etc. towards war period, no matter if it's a conventional or unconventional war.

The D-Day invasion bombing killed thousand of civilians and soldiers. If the press was disecting out strategy on the news everynight in WW2, maybe we would of had more dissent back then like we have today?
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For the same reason that we kicked the Iraqi forces out of Kuwait in '91.
I don't get your meaning. We kicked Saddam out of Kuwait, but allowed him to go home to torment his people. If we find comfort in this behavior and do this for oil, than why can't we destroy the brute and install a democracy for oil?

Might as well try to do the right thing while we feed ourselves right?
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