aegyptos

We didn't let Hitler rebuild his forces the Brits and French did. We had nothing to do with it. We weren't their allies and had no skin in the game, and rightly so. Hitler was entirely a European thing and all the blame belongs to them and none to us.

the makeout hobo

But in WWII, we had real, verifiable results. We had land seized, islands captured, countries liberated. We had a metric to gauge how the war was going. Now, we don't really have anything except what seems like a forever war.

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Awesome!

First we defeated Japan, occupied Japan until 1950 and then vowed to never let her rebuild her military and then we changed our position and thought it best due to the fears of communist expansion in the region and then back and forth, back and forth... etc. We didn't really have all the answers after 1945 with the growing threat of communism, but we took action though.

The current conflict in Iraq hasn't even scratched the surface yet compared to our wars against communism which ultimately we won. I would argue that the verifiable results like we had in world war 2 are the same as our "forever wars" against communism after 1945. It's too early to measure the conflict in Iraq as a "forever war" and even if it is we clearly have examples showing that if we stay the course we ultimately will prevail. Walls come down, the iron curtain comes down, etc. etc.

It comes with action it seems...

Awesome!

Well, we made the choice not to join the league of nations. We should of to help be the leader that we were destined to be, but that didn't happen and then we had war in europe.

aegyptos

I completely disagree with all of this. Europe's failure made us the leading power, not destiny. We were more secure when we stayed outside the great power game than we are now.

bub

Why is France more guilty for that than the US?

That's strange you say that, because France had the very same policy than the USA: isolationism.

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aegyptos

You live there. Do I really need to explain this to you? Because France and Britain are next door to Germany. German rearmament directly threatened them. German rhetoric made it clear that Hitler intended war. The United States was not an ally of the French and British before the war nor was it threatened by Germany. We were isolated from European madness by the Atlantic Ocean and protected by our large navy. France was not isolated from anything being a front line state with a worthless and pusillanimous ally in the British. I think also its incorrect to describe the French foreign policy before the war as isolationist. French diplomats were active in eastern Europe trying to create an alliance that would threaten Germany from the rear. This alliance was called the Little Entante. France was also the possessor of a large oversea empire. Nothing isolationist about those things. America really was an isolationist state. For America, political isolation was the correct foreign policy with regard to Europe.

Iriemon

But Hussein was an American thing that was why we were justified in attacking?

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Iriemon

Britain and France didn't put Hitler in power. They were the only nations to stand up to him, though, and Canada. (It certainly wasn't Canada's fault).

France and Britain didn't put Hitler in power. Why is it there fu

aegyptos

I'm surprised you think the attack on Iraq was justified. Of course Iraq itself was an invention of British imperialists in 1922. Nothing that followed from that blockheaded mistake can put on the American side of the ledger. So no Saddam was not an American thing as you put it. Saddam was an Arab leader doing what Arab leaders do. We should have left him alone to do it, in my opinion.