Was the Mexican War Justified? - Page 4

GySgt · 05-06-08, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Volker

There were actually Egyptians in Switzerland this year or the last one, I do not remember exactly, they tried to start a lawsuit by saying, these Hebrews were slaves, slaves do not have much, but when they left Egypt, they had a lot of gold with them, you know, for the Golden Calf and stuff. They have to give it back to Egypt with interests.

n-tv wrote, that a man in Israel smiled and said, ok, lets talk about the payment for the Hebrews who worked at the pyramides in a first step and about this gold in a second step

Maybe mankind should sue all women on behalf of Adam. And then commence to right all the wrongs in history from then on through court battles. It should only take a week or two.

Doc Howl · 05-13-08, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FluffyNinja

After listening to some of the controversy surrounding the recent Absolut Vodka ad that ran in Mexico, I began to reflect on the Mexican War of 1846 and its validity. My question is, was the Mexican War justified? And, if not, do we owe anything (land, reparations, apologies, etc.) to the people of Mexico as a result?

I mean, think about it, the most commonly accepted version of this history says that Sam Houston virtually "tricked" the US Senate into annexing Texas by making public claims that Texas would ally itself with Britain. The US could not "stomach" having our most recent "international enemy" sitting on our back doorstep, so they folded. Sam Houston's bluff payed off. We learn later, from some of Houston's own correspondence, that he never originally had any intent to side with the British. In the end, the US ended up with a pretty sweet deal. We took a pretty valuable "chunk" of land from Mexico for $15 million and by the settlement of a "lopsided" treaty.

There are many other implications from the era, that when taken in context, may have made this more legitimate. I'm really quite divided on this question. Just wondering if any of you have an opinion?

The Mexican-American war was unabashed armed robbery on a national scale.

We asked to buy huge tracts of Mexico, they refused, we forced the sale.

ludahai · 05-15-08, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Howl

The Mexican-American war was unabashed armed robbery on a national scale.

We asked to buy huge tracts of Mexico, they refused, we forced the sale.

AFTER Mexican troops crossed the border into Texas! Remember, it was the MEXICANS who said that the U.S. admitting Texas into the Union after its third application would be considered a hostile act to Mexico.

American · 05-19-08, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by FluffyNinja

I agree with almost all of your points, but would you go as far as to say that this war was "concocted" by Pres. Polk and the US Senate as a form of Imperialism, under the "justification" of Manifest Destiny? Or do you believe the US Senate was, in fact, so easily duped by Sam Houston?

I think it's a futile discussion, because justification is subjective. Many people cannot justify any war, even when their own doors are being broken in. The bottom line is, that it is what it is, and the Mexicans don't have a right to a damn thing. We have 50 bonafide states now; it's done.

aegyptos · 05-20-08, 06:44 PM

The Mexican War was probably unjustified but that doesn't mean it wasn't the right thing to do for a geo-political standpoint. A 19th Century war to take Canada over would have been equally unjustified but geo-politically correct as well, expelling the British and completing US hegemony over North America.