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The Passion of Spain - 80th Anniversary

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Exactly 80 years ago, the tensions within the Spanish Republic reached unbearable levels and the alzamiento of July 18 began. The greatest persecution of Catholics since late Antiquity was about to begin in the territory retained by the Communist-inspired forces, and would be particularly brutal in the first six months of the conflict - giving the Church thousands of martyrs (including 13 bishops), of which around 1,000 have already been beatified.

Ten years ago, we began a special series of posts on the story of this relentless persecution, reverted only after Catholics joined the struggle for the faith: read it all in The Passion of Spain series. We also ask our readers to please share on our Twitter feed their favorite books, videos, online sources on this event, in any language - for instance, the Collective Letter of the Spanish Bishops (July 1, 1937); the response of several national episcopates, including the Bishops of Ireland; or the chilling images in the first and second annex on religious persecution of the Causa General.
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(In the first image, Republican militiamen fire at the Monument to the Sacred Heart, in the Cerro de los Á�ngeles, province of Madrid -- the monument would be completely destroyed in the first months of the persecution. It would be rebuilt following the war. In the image below, a Russian Orthodox chaplain of the White Russian volunteers assembled by General Evgeny Miller, exiled in France, who would be kidnapped in French soil during the war, tortured and killed in his homeland - source. And in our header above, a Mass celebrated near the Sierra Nevada, in Andalusia, for the Tercio Isabel la Católica, of Granada, one of the many Catholic groups fighting against the attempted extermination of the Church - source.)

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Interesting to read about something I know little about. I must read more about the period.
 
Interesting to read about something I know little about. I must read more about the period.

This period (In particular the period of Spain) is very interesting.
 
Payback is a bitch after hundreds of years of mass murder and torture by Spanish Catholics on everyone else.. sadly it did not last and Spain suffered 40+ years under a brutal right wing dictatorship.
 
Payback is a bitch after hundreds of years of mass murder and torture by Spanish Catholics on everyone else.. sadly it did not last and Spain suffered 40+ years under a brutal right wing dictatorship.

My goodness, but ever! That is a perfect reproduction of fascist thinking quite beyond mere bigotry. It is, however, quite the way wide swathes of liberals and socialists actually think especially in the social democracies of Europe.
 
My goodness, but ever! That is a perfect reproduction of fascist thinking quite beyond mere bigotry. It is, however, quite the way wide swathes of liberals and socialists actually think especially in the social democracies of Europe.

What? LOL are you denying basic history? Are you denying the Spanish Inquisition? Are you denying the kidnapping of children by the Catholic Church and Franco during his dictatorship? Or the mass executions? Or the disappearances?
 
This period (In particular the period of Spain) is very interesting.

It often loses the spotlight to the more spectacular stars of the socialist/fascist family.
 
What? LOL are you denying basic history? Are you denying the Spanish Inquisition? Are you denying the kidnapping of children by the Catholic Church and Franco during his dictatorship? Or the mass executions? Or the disappearances?

Nope. Wouldn't deny history. But I wouldn't applaud punishing individuals living today as a group for things done by society with different parameters in a completely other time and other cultural context. That is, one of the more disgusting things fascists tend to do with their adversaries.
 
My goodness, but ever! That is a perfect reproduction of fascist thinking quite beyond mere bigotry. It is, however, quite the way wide swathes of liberals and socialists actually think especially in the social democracies of Europe.

Not bigotry at all, we are talking about a period that showed us one of the greatest examples of regulated faith in Christian history. Thousands executed, tens of thousands charged with crimes involving faith, many more simply missing with little reason, and all sorts of activity suggesting total perversion of the faith.

Straight up history, and it is not pretty.
 
Nope. Wouldn't deny history. But I wouldn't applaud punishing individuals living today as a group for things done by society with different parameters in a completely other time and other cultural context. That is, one of the more disgusting things fascists tend to do with their adversaries.

And who is doing that? 80+ years ago people who lived through the Spanish Inquisition were still alive..or did you forget that it was only abolished officially in the mid 1800s?
 
Payback is a bitch after hundreds of years of mass murder and torture by Spanish Catholics on everyone else.. sadly it did not last and Spain suffered 40+ years under a brutal right wing dictatorship.

Sadly?

Seriously?

I'm sure Spanish people didn't exactly love Franco, but the Republicans were just as nasty.

To say it's "too bad" would be the equivalent of me saying "it's too bad Germany didn't continue to occupy Denmark after WW2".

It's an ignorant statement.
 
Are you denying the kidnapping of children by the Catholic Church and Franco during his dictatorship? Or the mass executions? Or the disappearances?

Franco's mass executions during the war and post war were a form of payback for leftist atrocities. What did you say about payback.... .

I know, I know, who is paying back whom for what makes all the difference as to whether the payback is acceptable.
 
Franco's mass executions during the war and post war were a form of payback for leftist atrocities. What did you say about payback.... .

I know, I know, who is paying back whom for what makes all the difference as to whether the payback is acceptable.

And the leftist "atrocities" were payback for centuries of right wing Catholic persecution...Franco just continued a long Catholic tradition going back over 1000 years, where the opposition were hunted down and killed.

You can talk all about the supposed left wing atrocities, but they would not have happened (if they did), if it had not been for the right wing abuse of the people for centuries.
 
You can talk all about the supposed left wing atrocities, but they would not have happened (if they did), if it had not been for the right wing abuse of the people for centuries.

Maybe the earlier right wing atrocities never happened either?

That possibility aside, left wing anarchist factions very quickly started "cleansing" Spanish society red guard style at a level that was way out of proportion to the favoritism granted by recent Spanish governments to land owners, clergy, capitalists, and military officers.

It was all fun and games for the reds- until they started to lose.
 
Hello people, I'm french, but I was living in Spain during many time, my job is to metaphysics, and I've been in Spain and I know quite well the history of this country. The II Spanish Republic was a Republic that was defended by all the values of the society in their home, but during the course of the Republic, became a State Marxist, privatizing land, burning churches and executing Christians; In addition, the II Republic killed political leaders of the opposition (usually conservatives)...

The apology to the II Republic, i.e., show republican flags, is a crime in Spain, and is logical, because caused a great damage in Spain.
 
What? LOL are you denying basic history? Are you denying the Spanish Inquisition?
Nobody denies the Spanish Inquisition!


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