Stalin. Falsehood on which spent Billions

Tovarish · Jul 18, 2013

Dezaad said:
Well, you seem to care about your credibility, but you don't want to have to work to establish it. So, you try to ridicule those who won't establish it for you by giving them a 'lesson' in how to Google. That's just not how it works "Friend". Whatever. No one should even read your posts at all.

You are absolutely right. No one owes nothing. I write my posts for those who want to know something like that then, except for Propaganda the U.S. government. And have you noticed that no one really can not refute my post. Only empty talk - "Stalin a tyrant and all that." and the reference to "Wikipedia". Hehe

DDD · Jul 18, 2013

Tovarish said:
1) Do you want to link? There are many. https://www.google.com/ Input - the memoirs of the conversation with AM Kollontai, November 1939\\\Churchill's memoirs\\\Diary of Joseph Davis\\\"Fireside chats" - Franklin Roosevelt\\\Memoirs Averell Harriman.... Teach you how to use Google? 2) "Falsehood on which spent Billions" - it is not clear? Или требуют изменений наших сердцах? Heh-heh. 3) From a speech on the radio in April 1942 Franklin D. Roosevelt:" Need to always remember that the Russian army consume more manpower and equipment of the enemy than all the other twenty-five states of the Anti-Hitler alliance put together." Now you can laugh

I do not know how it is in Russia. But over here your statements are BS if you yourself do not provide links and not tell how to make searches instead, meh-meh.

Tovarish · Jul 18, 2013

Fallenangel said:
So... let's recap;
1. No links or references to sources.
2. Not even attempting to provide a rebuttal to any points presented by others.
3. Supplying bs sources that actually contradict your own op.
4. Spouting bs and "jokes" pretty much in every post.

Conclusion;

Fallen.

*laughs* Are you Jewish? They just love to distort. 1,2,3,4 - nonsense. And you know it. You just can not deny anything, You this angry. I wrote all the numbers and dates. Show sources. Google and check a score. In addition, I gave you a link to Russian statistics, and Russian archives. Search. You started to empty talk. You Has not denied any of the statistical. Your argument - "Stalin - a tyrant". Conclusion: You're a troll. *laughs*

DDD · Jul 18, 2013

Perhaps it is ignorance. Here Tovarish learn from me how to write in these forums if you want to be read or spare yourself from being considered as a troll (and possibly banned from that). Here look at me and model/learn how to write.

Bisphenol A is bad news when found in water (Vinas et al, 2013) <--- These in brackets are authors of a scientifically reviewed study that have found logical data to tie their statements to inferences/indicators/facts. It is these links that are asked of you, and in this forum the sources and your posts have to be in good English.

References (other people call "sources")

Viñas, R., Goldblum, R. M., & Watson, C. S. (2013). Rapid estrogenic signaling activities of the modified (chlorinated, sulfonated, and glucuronidated) endocrine disruptor bisphenol A. Endocrine Disruptors

BPA and chlorine means bad news: Modified forms of bisphenol A found to alter hormone signaling in new, disturbing ways

The link above is a source, if you click it it will take you to the authors work. These links are wanted, these you should provide. Not tell us how to use Google!

Tovarish · Jul 18, 2013

DDD said:
I do not know how it is in Russia. But over here your statements are BS if you yourself do not provide links and not tell how to make searches instead, meh-meh.

The fact that I give references to "Russian federal archive" and "Russian Federal Office of Statistics". I am told that it is necessary to give references in English. But the Russian archives and Russian statistics printed by Russian. (Germans - in German, Frence - in French, the United States - in English ....) If you do not understand in Russian - I translation to their posts. What is not clear? When you have nothing to say except - "Stalin was a tyrant": then the statistics are not in the language, then those links do not. Heh-heh.

Tovarish · Jul 18, 2013

DDD said:
Perhaps it is ignorance. Here Tovarish learn from me how to write in these forums if you want to be read or spare yourself from being considered as a troll (and possibly banned from that). Here look at me and model/learn how to write.

Bisphenol A is bad news when found in water (Vinas et al, 2013) <--- These in brackets are authors of a scientifically reviewed study that have found logical data to tie their statements to inferences/indicators/facts. It is these links that are asked of you, and in this forum the sources and your posts have to be in good English.

References (other people call "sources")

Viñas, R., Goldblum, R. M., & Watson, C. S. (2013). Rapid estrogenic signaling activities of the modified (chlorinated, sulfonated, and glucuronidated) endocrine disruptor bisphenol A. Endocrine Disruptors

BPA and chlorine means bad news: Modified forms of bisphenol A found to alter hormone signaling in new, disturbing ways

The link above is a source, if you click it it will take you to the authors work. These links are wanted, these you should provide. Not tell us how to use Google!

Explain. If my source in Russian. How do I give a link? Write - on Russian impossible. But if this is the official Russian sites (of course in Russian)

Dezaad · Jul 18, 2013

Tovarish said:
You are absolutely right. No one owes nothing. I write my posts for those who want to know something like that then, except for Propaganda the U.S. government. And have you noticed that no one really can not refute my post. Only empty talk - "Stalin a tyrant and all that." and the reference to "Wikipedia". Hehe

A reference to Wikipedia against zero references from you is not a "win" in your favor. The fact that you don't get that is an even further reduction in your credibility.

By all means, keep up the good show. It is mildly entertaining.

Fallenangel · Jul 18, 2013

Tovarish said:
*laughs* Are you Jewish? They just love to distort. 1,2,3,4 - nonsense. And you know it. You just can not deny anything, You this angry. I wrote all the numbers and dates. Show sources. Google and check a score. In addition, I gave you a link to Russian statistics, and Russian archives. Search. You started to empty talk. You Has not denied any of the statistical. Your argument - "Stalin - a tyrant". Conclusion: You're a troll. *laughs*

So...let's recap again... oh great you posted more unrelated bs.

1. No links or references to sources.
2. Not even attempting to provide a rebuttal to any points presented by others.
3. Supplying bs sources that actually contradict your own op.
4. Spouting bs and "jokes" pretty much in every post.

Conclusion; still a total fail.

Btw you still haven't answered - Are you Russian?

Fallen.

Tovarish · Jul 18, 2013

Dezaad said:
A reference to Wikipedia against zero references from you is not a "win" in your favor. The fact that you don't get that is an even further reduction in your credibility.

By all means, keep up the good show. It is mildly entertaining.

Why you cheat? I gave links to official sites (though they are in Russian, but it is my source) - "Russian Federal Archives" and "Russian State Statistics Service." Or are you kidding me? Ooh. I think I realized. You are not allowed to read articles from Russia. Censorship. The U.S. government is reading your correspondence and keeps track of all citizens. For this you have to read only reference to the English language? U.S. turns to Germany - 30s?

Dezaad · Jul 18, 2013

Tovarish said:
Why you cheat? I gave links to official sites (though they are in Russian, but it is my source) - "Russian Federal Archives" and "Russian State Statistics Service." Or are you kidding me? Ooh. I think I realized. You are not allowed to read articles from Russia. Censorship. The U.S. government is reading your correspondence and keeps track of all citizens. For this you have to read only reference to the English language? U.S. turns to Germany - 30s?

This is an English Language site. In Russia, they probably have Russian Language sites, and I would be expected to provide Russian Language citations there. That's the way the world works, and I know it is tough, but them's the breaks.

Tovarish · Jul 18, 2013

Fallenangel said:
So...let's recap again... oh great you posted more unrelated bs.

1. No links or references to sources.
2. Not even attempting to provide a rebuttal to any points presented by others.
3. Supplying bs sources that actually contradict your own op.
4. Spouting bs and "jokes" pretty much in every post.

Conclusion; still a total fail.

Btw you still haven't answered - Are you Russian?

Fallen.

1,2,3,4 - nonsense. You also not answer.

DDD · Jul 18, 2013

Tovarish said:
The fact that I give references to "Russian federal archive" and "Russian Federal Office of Statistics". I am told that it is necessary to give references in English. But the Russian archives and Russian statistics printed by Russian. (Germans - in German, Frence - in French, the United States - in English ....) If you do not understand in Russian - I translation to their posts. What is not clear? When you have nothing to say except - "Stalin was a tyrant": then the statistics are not in the language, then those links do not. Heh-heh.

Cheese, you English is beyond reach!

As I said, all you say is BS unless you provide links and the links are in English for all the world to understand you, not just Russia.

DDD · Jul 18, 2013

Tovarish said:
Explain. If my source in Russian. How do I give a link? Write - on Russian impossible. But if this is the official Russian sites (of course in Russian)

Choose English links with Russian perspective. Translate your links using Google Translate (not a good idea though!). I do not care really but "these here are them the rules."

Fallenangel · Jul 18, 2013

Tovarish said:
1,2,3,4 - nonsense. You also not answer.

Wow, took you long enough to write 5 words.

So still...
1. No links or references to sources.
2. Not even attempting to provide a rebuttal to any points presented by others.
3. Supplying bs sources that actually contradict your own op.
4. Spouting bs and "jokes" pretty much in every post.

Btw, I asked you first...so... Are you Russian?

Fallen.

DDD · Jul 18, 2013

Tovarish said:
*laughs* Are you Jewish? They just love to distort. 1,2,3,4 - nonsense. And you know it. You just can not deny anything, You this angry. I wrote all the numbers and dates. Show sources. Google and check a score. In addition, I gave you a link to Russian statistics, and Russian archives. Search. You started to empty talk. You Has not denied any of the statistical. Your argument - "Stalin - a tyrant". Conclusion: You're a troll. *laughs*

So ah, what if Fallen is Jewish? What then? What happens? What should be done with him?

Tovarish · Jul 18, 2013

Dezaad said:
This is an English Language site. In Russia, they probably have Russian Language sites, and I would be expected to provide Russian Language citations there. That's the way the world works, and I know it is tough, but them's the breaks.

On the Russian forum, link can be given to any country and any language. In Russia there is no censorship. What do I do if my source in the Russian, French, German....? In the U.S., all of which can not be censored banned?

calamity · Jul 18, 2013

I read once that Stalin loved children. So...

He can't be all bad

Quag · Jul 18, 2013

calamity said:
I read once that Stalin loved children. So...

He can't be all bad

yes they are tasty with ketchup or so ive heard

DDD · Jul 18, 2013

Tovarish said:
On the Russian forum, link can be given to any country and any language. In Russia there is no censorship. What do I do if my source in the Russian, French, German....? In the U.S., all of which can not be censored banned?

This matter is not open for negotiation. If you do not post in English mods reach to you shortly. I wrote Turkish once and had the same treatment. Another user wrote Deutch and received the same treatment (I believe). So you see this is how it is!

Cyrylek · Jul 18, 2013

Tovarish said:
First I would try to tell the truth about Stalin. Expose the myths, the creation of Western propaganda about the "bloody dictator"."

Ok, here's the deal. You resurrect my both grandfathers, three great-grandparents, all their children (save my grandmothers) - total number 21 (24, if the adopted ones are included). Then give back all the years the grandmother who raised me had spent in the labor camps - that would be 15. Do just that, the very minimum necessary for me, on the personal level, to "open my mind" - and I will be ready to hear why the worst specimen of human race in history of Earth (no offence, Lenin, Trotsky, Hitler, Robespierre and Pol Pot, but someone has to be #1) might have been something other than a "bloody dictator".

Until you do at least that - no sale.

Tovarish · Jul 18, 2013

DDD said:
So ah, what if Fallen is Jewish? What then? What happens? What should be done with him?

I do not know. For you it matter? Every nation has what it leanings. Black - good basketball players, boxers, runners ... Asians - hard working and motivated. Jews (and the Arabs) - good sellers. Just the Jews love to distort and answer a question with a question. And what to do with them? You can.

Quag · Jul 18, 2013

Tovarish said:
I do not know. For you it matter? Every nation has what it leanings. Black - good basketball players, boxers, runners ... Asians - hard working and motivated. Jews (and the Arabs) - good sellers. Just the Jews love to distort and answer a question with a question. And what to do with them? You can.

So not only going for revisionist history you've decided to become anti-Semitic as well?

Fallenangel · Jul 18, 2013

Tovarish said:
I do not know. For you it matter? Every nation has what it leanings. Black - good basketball players, boxers, runners ... Asians - hard working and motivated. Jews (and the Arabs) - good sellers. Just the Jews love to distort and answer a question with a question. And what to do with them? You can.

And after like 5 pages of bs you still have;
1. No links or references to sources.
2. Not even attempting to provide a rebuttal to any points presented by others.
3. Supplying bs sources that actually contradict your own op.
4. Spouting bs and "jokes" pretty much in every post.

Conclusion; still a total fail.

Btw you still haven't answered - A-r-e y-o-u R-u-s-s-i-a-n?

Fallen.

AliHajiSheik · Jul 18, 2013

DDD said:
So ah, what if Fallen is Jewish? What then? What happens? What should be done with him?

The implication is clear, "heh-heh".

As for Stalin, he killed all those people and still the population went up. Clearly he is misunderstood, "heh-heh."

Tovarish · Jul 18, 2013

Cyrylek said:
Ok, here's the deal. You resurrect my both grandfathers, three great-grandparents, all their children (save my grandmothers) - total number 21 (24, if the adopted ones are included). Then give back all the years the grandmother who raised me had spent in the labor camps - that would be 15. Do just that, the very minimum necessary for me, on the personal level, to "open my mind" - and I will be ready to hear why the worst specimen of human race in history of Earth (no offence, Lenin, Trotsky, Hitler, Robespierre and Pol Pot, but someone has to be #1) might have been something other than a "bloody dictator".

Until you do at least that - no sale.

You know that 100% of the chiefs were Jewish Gulag? The repression carried out on the direct orders Jew Trotsky (Bronstein). Jagoda (Jew) led the repression? To them - invoice. By the way, Stalin destroyed the bloody animal (Trotsky (Bronstein). Jagoda). He avenged you. By the way, despite the severance of diplomatic relations between the USSR and Israel. Why Israel to react to the death of Stalin?

Stalin. Falsehood on which spent Billions

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