Thread: Franklin D. Roosevelt: Socialist or "Champion of Freedom"?

Originally Posted by haymarket

Perhaps you could post a link to somebody who can actually explain this with more than a cursory drive-by mention?

No need for that. What I am describing is the study of destruction on the most basic levels of existence to the most complex. Do know what I am saying here?

Originally Posted by Henrin

So the laws of destruction do not exist?

Laws of destruction: what laws are you referring to?

Originally Posted by jet57

Laws of destruction: what laws are you referring to?

I posted much the same question, asked for links to the concept and only got a simple line saying there was NO NEEDS FOR THAT....... in other words - no explanation was necessary. Apparently the poster cannot explain what they mean nor offer any substantive links to what they believe they mean.

Originally Posted by haymarket

Cop out of what? Some pointless exercise that college sophomores use to impress each other after consuming too much red Bull at 3 am and cannot sleep so they attempt to unravel the mysteries of the universe with pointless nonsense?

It's not a pointless exercise. This is a political discussion board, and on this board you have made certain recommendations regarding what you consider to be a desired social order. I think it's relevant to know whether these recommendations come from someone who believes that each person has a right to his or her own life or not. Knowing this about you would help us judge whether you and your opinions are worthy of consideration.

Originally Posted by jet57

Yes, I stand corrected on natural law. Our constitution is indeed written around it.

So, I'm trying to figure out what you're saying exactly with respect to what our government has done.

What I'm saying is this. The government's legitimate purpose is to defend the life, liberty, and property of the people. If the government then issues commands, commands that are backed with the threat of violence, that tells a person how much wheat he may grow on his own farm, well then that government isn't actually protecting that person's liberty, now is it. In fact, that government could be said to be an enemy of liberty.

Originally Posted by Centinel

It's not a pointless exercise. This is a political discussion board, and on this board you have made certain recommendations regarding what you consider to be a desired social order. I think it's relevant to know whether these recommendations come from someone who believes that each person has a right to his or her own life or not. Knowing this about you would help us judge whether you and your opinions are worthy of consideration.

Yes, it is a political discussion board. It is not a philosophy discussion board.

Originally Posted by haymarket

Yes, it is a political discussion board. It is not a philosophy discussion board.

Whatever you say.

Regardless, I'm not going to put much credence in the political recommendations of someone who doesn't even think that each person has a right to his or her own life. I'd as soon hire a pedophile as a babysitter.

Originally Posted by Centinel

Whatever you say.

Regardless, I'm not going to put much credence in the political recommendations of someone who doesn't even think that each person has a right to his or her own life. I'd as soon hire a pedophile as a babysitter.

You talk nonsense with this stuff about the right to your own life. Its just nonsense.

I looked in my valuable papers drawer and found my birth certificate. But no matter how much I look I simply cannot find the deed proving that I own my life. Now you have me worried that I am not. What do I do when somebody knocks on the door and claims they bought my life years ago and are here to collect?

Can you explain to them how I have a right to own my own life even though the deed is not within reach? Come to think of it, I do not even ever remember having that deed.

Damn, now I will not be able to sleep because of you.

Originally Posted by haymarket

You talk nonsense with this stuff about the right to your own life. Its just nonsense.

What a fascinating view on the right to life. No wonder you found your way into the government apparatus.

Now, tell me. Do you regard it as immoral to initiate aggression against the life or property of your fellow man?

Originally Posted by haymarket

I posted much the same question, asked for links to the concept and only got a simple line saying there was NO NEEDS FOR THAT....... in other words - no explanation was necessary. Apparently the poster cannot explain what they mean nor offer any substantive links to what they believe they mean.

Argh..Tell me, who doesn't understand how destruction works and who isn't aware this is on all levels of existence? Why in the world do I need to waste my time going through it?