Thread: Why didn't the Allies bomb the tracks to Auschwitz and other death camps?

Originally Posted by Misterveritis

Gosh. Things seem so much simpler when you are not fighting for your very survival.

Decrypts were top secret ULTRA. Very few people saw them. I suspect that most would have been set aside as irrelevant to the military concerns. In 1941 Britain fought alone. They fought in the skies over their island. They hung on, barely. I cannot imagine for a moment, that anyone would have spent very much time on train logs and reported deaths behind enemy lines. Operation BARBAROSA had started and it looked like the Soviet Union was being crushed under the same Blitzkreig that took France out of the war in a few weeks.

I think, at the time, it was not all that clear until the middle of 1944 that the Allies would win. From recollections of reading many books on the decrypts there were relatively few (in the low hundreds) and they were relatively late (1944 and 1945). Much of the information about death camps came from humint sources, defector reports and such. They were generally not believed (deception was a significant part of WWII efforts).

I loaned out my best book on ULTRA and never got it back. It is worth more research.

I agree with you and already posted that it would of been a waste of time for the UK to target the camps, I only posted the link in response to the question did the UK know!

Originally Posted by Higgins86

lol because he was, this is an historical fact. Just because the Nazi party was founded under the name national socalist party does not make them left wing, but I guess if you take your history lessons from glen beck...

Look at any political spectrum and you will find hitler on the far far right.

Isn't it amazing. I have only interacted with you for five minutes but I already know that I don't like you.

I suppose that there is some comfort level for you to believe he was right wing. He seemed to be a complicated mix of beliefs. Perhaps he pragmatically did what authoritarians do. He picked and chose what worked best to seize power.

Originally Posted by Misterveritis

Isn't it amazing. I have only interacted with you for five minutes but I already know that I don't like you.

I suppose that there is some comfort level for you to believe he was right wing. He seemed to be a complicated mix of beliefs. Perhaps he pragmatically did what authoritarians do. He picked and chose what worked best to seize power.

A conservative from the south doesn't like me? Well boo hoo lucky im not on here to make friends

As I have already stated the core beliefs of the Nazis were facist and they originated from Italian Facism. Just because some of their policies were socalist does not make them socalist, America is a capalist country but yet you have social security, medi-care and other socalist programs. Does this make America Socalist? No it does not as their key beliefs are not socalist, as with the nazi's.

Originally Posted by Higgins86

A conservative from the south doesn't like me? Well boo hoo.

No surprise why, huh? You clearly lack manners, believe you are the smartest person in the room and are smug. But beyond those I see nothing fundamentally wrong with you. I am often generous in my appraisals.

Originally Posted by Misterveritis

No surprise why, huh? You clearly lack manners, believe you are the smartest person in the room and are smug. But beyond those I see nothing fundamentally wrong with you. I am often generous in my appraisals.

I do not believe im the smartest man in the room...just smarter than you.

Originally Posted by Higgins86

I do not believe im the smartest man in the room...just smarter than you.

Well there ya go. Case is closed. Even your avatar looks pompous. You have a nice day now. And get somebody to help you remove that stick that is clearly shoved way to far up your...well, you have a good day.

Originally Posted by Misterveritis

Well there ya go. Case is closed. Even your avatar looks pompous. You have a nice day now. And get somebody to help you remove that stick that is clearly shoved way to far up your...well, you have a good day.

lol well your the one who made it personal buddy, you went for the personal attacks rather than actually replying to what I was saying. If you can list some KEY ( I stress Key) policies that the Nazis used tht could be seen as Socalist im all ears.

p.s the avatar is the duke of wellington a national hero.

Originally Posted by apdst

You really think the Russians gave a rat's ass? They killed more Jews than the Nazis did.

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Stalin was responsible for the deaths of 40 million people. About one-third of them--statistically speaking--were Jews.

I can't believe I have to actually show you evidence of this.

Look, I'm telling you this as a friend: you need to do some serious historical research before you broach the next historical topic.

The notion that socialism = anti-racism and sexism is a contemperary view, that wasn't necessarily held by socialists in the early 20th Century.

9/11 conspiracies are more plausible than the above.

So, you believe that Hitler quit the German socialist party to become, what? A Conservative, who pushed for fewer entitlements, smaller government, more capitalism and a free market?

A post Reagan conservative I'm sure.

The majority of Jews killed in the holocaust were soviet citizens murdered by eindsatzgruppen.

Originally Posted by apdst

You really think the Russians gave a rat's ass? They killed more Jews than the Nazis did.

yes, I too would like to see evidence of this.

Originally Posted by Higgins86

lol well your the one who made it personal buddy, you went for the personal attacks rather than actually replying to what I was saying. If you can list some KEY ( I stress Key) policies that the Nazis used tht could be seen as Socalist im all ears.

p.s the avatar is the duke of wellington a national hero.

And pompous. But I am glad I helped you laugh. (You will still need some help with that stick...)

I will pass on taking up whether or not Hitler, the head of the National Socialist party, had any socialism in him. Someone else may want to pick it up. It is relatively unimportant.