gabehwkns

Being just a student my ideas on politics are hardly set in stone and I'm always open to changing my opinion if I should. I had a question about the issue of health care, specifically Obama's plan, for those more educated on the matter.

They way I understand it, the goal of this bill is to create competition between government run health care and insurance provided care. The government run plans would (in theory) be better and more affordable so that people will switch to government run plans and insurance companies will be forced to offer coverage at a lower, more affordable rate in order to keep the organization running.

I know that's probably not all of it, but I think it's the gist. Please correct me on any misunderstanding.

But here's my question. Given I am understanding this correctly, won't the insurance companies just lobby the government for the profits they need to keep their business running and then jack up their rates again?

Pinjas

In the previous century a man came to power in russia named joseph stalin. One of his tactics, keep in mind was displayed as a way of protecting people to some degree (something similar to bill hr 875 that was proposed this year), to control and kill those he didn't wish to live was to control food. He made it a law that all food production and food harvested was now property of the government. Any who tried to continue to grow food were killed or sent to prison camps where they were worked to death.
I see a very strong similarity between government run -anything- and things of what joseph stalin did. It has been made law that children -must- go to public schools and receive physical check ups and inoculations. As some have learned, these inoculations contain extremely toxic substances such as mercury and lead. To suggest that on one smaller level they would force upon the population that would cause people to become weak and sickly is horrifying and disgusting. But imagine if they controlled every aspect of the medical industry. Western medicine in general is a horror, they give out chemo therapy like candy on Halloween and vaccines too (both are of no benefit to humans and also kill us).

Maybe it is true, it would be cheaper over all for the masses to have a singular health care plan, but the fear is the control it puts on everyones lives. The government isn't meant to do this, something all should keep in mind, to give to one they must take from another. What made this country great wasn't it's people, natural resources, size or anything of the like. It was what the government wasn't enabled to do. There is a portion of the constitution that is called the bill of rights, this portion should probably have been called something slightly different as it leads one to believe it has to do with freedom. This portion of the constitution has primarily to do with what the government isn't allowed to have anything to do with. All of these rules have been broken, the government now does whatever it wishes to do.

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Whip Comes Down

That's one of the goals, boo dog.

Whip Comes Down

Most people won't actually be eligible to enroll in the public option. It's just going to compete with the private plans offered in the exchange for people who can't get insurance from an employer.

Whip Comes Down

I'm sure they will.

Whip Comes Down

That was a really lame smear, boo dog.

MrVicchio

And what happens when employers realize they will save money dumping their "healthcare" leaving people forced to joint eh "public option"?

Also, no business can compete with a government funded program. Why? Because such programs don't run by the rules every other business does, I.E. they don't have to make a profit.

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MrVicchio

No, that's the claim they make to get people to accept it. The goal is Single Payer Healthcare. Why Single Payer? It's not because they give a damn about your health, it's because the number one way to ensure people vote for the Dems is to enslave them into a system that they become Dependant on. I.E. "Free Healthcare"

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gabehwkns

Though your opinon of single-payer is probably true of a lot of Democrats in Congress, I do think that there are a select few of people who genuinely support single-payer because they view health care as a basic right and the government should provide and protect that without the abuse of insurance companies even being a possibility, much like myself.

But I do see your point on the issue.

liblady

i would welcome a single payer system.

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