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Old 07-12-08, 03:39 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I'd be curious to know just how 1069 knows that "a number of children" are severely allergic to cum.... Are there really that many cum-eating kids out there who end up in hospitals? If so, how does one explain being there?
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I'd be curious to know just how 1069 knows that "a number of children" are severely allergic to cum.... Are there really that many cum-eating kids out there who end up in hospitals? If so, how does one explain being there?
Oops; I must've misread your suggestion.
I thought you said "rum".

Why in God's name would you be suggesting that aps pack semen in her child's lunch?
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My son is in day care at the Jewish Community Center in my area. They don't allow me to send meat for any meal/snack. I use Boca burgers, fake Chicken nuggets, and fish sticks. What are some other non-meat foods I can give to him for protein? I have given him black beans. I want to try other stuff on him, and I am just a plain dummy when it comes to knowing what has protein.

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Insufficient protein is not going to be a problem for your kids, unless you put them on a Pez and water diet, or something equally odd. Too much protein can be a problem. And the things that come with the typical high-protein American diet, like way too much fat intake, are a big problem.

I like Dr. MacDougall, a nutrition expert who has been around for decades, when it comes to proper diet for people. There are a lot of myths he has been refuting for a long time, like dairy being a necessary 'food group,' for instance, that he has been correct on before anyone else was.



People Require Very Little Protein

The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends that men and women obtain 5% of their calories as protein. This would mean 38 grams of protein for a man burning 3000 calories a day and 29 grams for a woman using 2300 calories a day. This quantity of protein is impossible to avoid when daily calorie needs are met by unrefined starches and vegetables. For example, rice alone would provide 71 grams of highly useable protein and white potatoes would provide 64 grams of protein.8

Our greatest time of growth—thus, the time of our greatest need for protein—is during our first 2 years of life—we double in size. At this vigorous developmental stage our ideal food is human milk, which is 5% protein. Compare this need to food choices that should be made as adults—when we are not growing. Rice is 8% protein, corn 11%, oatmeal 15%, and beans 27%.8 Thus protein deficiency is impossible when calorie needs are met by eating unprocessed starches and vegetables.

The healthy active lives of hundreds of millions of people laboring in Asia, Africa, and Central and South America on diets with less than half the amount of protein eaten by Americans and Europeans prove that the popular understanding of our protein needs is seriously flawed.


The McDougall Newsletter - When Friends Ask: “Why Don’t You Drink Milk?”
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Insufficient protein is not going to be a problem for your kids, unless you put them on a Pez and water diet, or something equally odd. Too much protein can be a problem. And the things that come with the typical high-protein American diet, like way too much fat intake, are a big problem.

I like Dr. MacDougall, a nutrition expert who has been around for decades, when it comes to proper diet for people. There are a lot of myths he has been refuting for a long time, like dairy being a necessary 'food group,' for instance, that he has been correct on before anyone else was.



People Require Very Little Protein

The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends that men and women obtain 5% of their calories as protein. This would mean 38 grams of protein for a man burning 3000 calories a day and 29 grams for a woman using 2300 calories a day. This quantity of protein is impossible to avoid when daily calorie needs are met by unrefined starches and vegetables. For example, rice alone would provide 71 grams of highly useable protein and white potatoes would provide 64 grams of protein.8

Our greatest time of growth—thus, the time of our greatest need for protein—is during our first 2 years of life—we double in size. At this vigorous developmental stage our ideal food is human milk, which is 5% protein. Compare this need to food choices that should be made as adults—when we are not growing. Rice is 8% protein, corn 11%, oatmeal 15%, and beans 27%.8 Thus protein deficiency is impossible when calorie needs are met by eating unprocessed starches and vegetables.

The healthy active lives of hundreds of millions of people laboring in Asia, Africa, and Central and South America on diets with less than half the amount of protein eaten by Americans and Europeans prove that the popular understanding of our protein needs is seriously flawed.


The McDougall Newsletter - When Friends Ask: “Why Don’t You Drink Milk?”
I find it interesting that you again turn this thread into your usual "dont drink milk/eat meat because fat is bad" rant.

Also, rice, corn, and oatmeal do not possess a complete BCAA content. Even though many essential amino's are present in vegetables, they are negligible amounts. A good example would be L-Glutamine.
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I find it interesting that you again turn this thread into your usual "dont drink milk/eat meat because fat is bad" rant.
But he's right.
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But he's right.
Hmmmm.... How can this be if your body requires cholesterol, fat and saturated fat?
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Oops; I must've misread your suggestion.
I thought you said "rum".

Why in God's name would you be suggesting that aps pack semen in her child's lunch?

I'm not suggesting anything. I simply added to the list of various protein sources.
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I find it interesting that you again turn this thread into your usual "dont drink milk/eat meat because fat is bad" rant.

Also, rice, corn, and oatmeal do not possess a complete BCAA content. Even though many essential amino's are present in vegetables, they are negligible amounts. A good example would be L-Glutamine.
At least you find it interesting.

L-glutamine? Isn't l glutamine non-essential? Created by the body, except during particular illnesses? In other words, you don't even need negligible amounts of it normally.

If I remember right, you are a bodybuilder. Maybe you believe in the supplements and diet information that some companies hawk. This supplement helps build muscle mass, this one reduces fat... I think a lot of misinformation comes from companies that make money selling such products.

The link I posted below shows a graph with the 8 essential amino acids on it, and the amounts of them in vegetables and meats. I wanted the lady who started this thread to see it. She doesn't need to worry that her kids aren't getting enough protein at lunchtime, or any other time, due to a lack of meat. Meat is not necessary for adequate protein intake.

If you like milk, drink it. Eat meat if you want. I do too (eat some chicken or fish), but very little. Its okay in small doses.
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Hmmmm.... How can this be if your body requires cholesterol, fat and saturated fat?
That's wrong. I don't know where you got the above information, but it is at least partly wrong. You don't need any, not any cholesterol in your diet. Your body produces enough of it:

Actually, your body produces enough cholesterol...

What Is Cholesterol?


Your body produces enough cholesterol to meet its needs.

Federal Citizen Information Center: So You Have High Blood Cholesterol


However, your liver makes enough cholesterol to satisfy your body’s needs.

Understanding Cholesterol Lowering Medications by eMedicineHeatlh.com
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A hard-boiled egg is great in lunches. Make sure it is cold when you pack it.

Do not worry about the cholesterol in eggs, unless you cook them in butter or bacon fat, they will not raise your cholesterol level. Eggs are also high in lecithin, which positively affects cholesterol.

Lecithin: a Very Special Substance - The egg yolk - carotenoids make them yellow like gold

"Egg yolks are full of lecithin, a biologically valuable substance that every cell of the body needs. The more important an organ is, the more lecithin it contains. Bone marrow, brain, liver and heart are particularly rich in lecithin. Although lecithin is a fat, it is not used as a source of energy, but is responsible for vital tasks in the cell membranes, especially in nervous tissue.
Our bodies can produce the valuable substance themselves or obtain it from food. Lecithin doesn’t just aid memory and concentration; it also strengthens nerves, positively influences cholesterol levels and hinders the formation of gallstones. "



ENC - Egg Nutrition Center

"With all the media attention on cholesterol, consumers often lose sight of the fact that eggs are a nutrient rich, affordable contributor to a healthy diet. Not only do eggs contain the highest quality source of protein available but they also contain almost every essential vitamin and mineral needed by humans. In fact, egg protein is of such high quality that it is used as the standard by which other proteins are compared. Eggs have a biological value (efficacy with which protein is used for growth) of 93.7%. Comparable values are 84.5% for milk, 76% for fish, and 74.3% for beef. Eggs really are the best protein money can buy, and it has all those other valuable vitamins and minerals too."
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