Free Personal Self Defense Course For Women

bhkad · 01-03-08, 10:34 PM

Free Personal Self Defense Course For Women

And Men!

http://www.justyellfire.com/index.php

Download it. Watch it. Learn it. Use it.

mikhail · 01-04-08, 12:37 AM

I cant believe its a fact 1 in 4 women are raped in college.I doubt its that high in prison.

Izdaari · 01-04-08, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikhail

I cant believe its a fact 1 in 4 women are raped in college.I doubt its that high in prison.

It said date rape. It could be that high, if you define it very loosely.

WI Crippler · 01-04-08, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikhail

I cant believe its a fact 1 in 4 women are raped in college.I doubt its that high in prison.

Its called getting wasted and waking up next to some dude who is also wasted, and then remembering that "1 in 4 of you girls will be raped" speech given at the freshman orientation.

Not saying college girls don't get raped, but 1 in 4 is an unbelieveably highy number.

rivrrat · 01-10-08, 10:56 AM

That number seems accurate and/or possibly low to me. But, I'm simply going by what I know has happened to female friends of mine and how many actually reported it. (in my own personal circle, 50% of my female friends have been raped. 0% reported it)

WI Crippler · 01-10-08, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivrrat

That number seems accurate and/or possibly low to me. But, I'm simply going by what I know has happened to female friends of mine and how many actually reported it. (in my own personal circle, 50% of my female friends have been raped. 0% reported it)

Well to be fair, I am going on my college experience and none of the guys I were hanging out with were even close to sniffing some ***, so I guess I just didn't see the opportunities for them to be raping girls presenting itself.

However, I did end up at a frat house party at University of Arizona, when I was in the service. There were some drunk *** girls there that were probably going to be taken advantage of later. I don't know if I would qualify that as rape though.

I guess I consider rape to be a man violently forcing himself on a woman, when she has made clear that she does not want to have sex. I guess I just don't know any guys who would actually do that.

rivrrat · 01-10-08, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WI Crippler

Well to be fair, I am going on my college experience and none of the guys I were hanging out with were even close to sniffing some ***, so I guess I just didn't see the opportunities for them to be raping girls presenting itself.

However, I did end up at a frat house party at University of Arizona, when I was in the service. There were some drunk *** girls there that were probably going to be taken advantage of later. I don't know if I would qualify that as rape though.

I guess I consider rape to be a man violently forcing himself on a woman, when she has made clear that she does not want to have sex. I guess I just don't know any guys who would actually do that.

I'm not referring to getting drunk and regretting having sex. I don't consider that rape either. I consider it rape when a person FORCES another person to have sex, and that doesn't necessarily have to be violent. In my case, I was drugged by my rapists to the point that I was physically unable to resist them - though I was able to speak a little, but only meekly. (I was practically paralyzed) While it wasn't violent, it was still very much a rape.

So, when people say "date rape", I don't think of a woman waking up and regretting her previous night's decision. I think of a man not accepting "no", or drugging his date, etc. Date rape simply means that the woman was willingly with the man in a specific situation - that she knew him. But going to a bar with a man doesn't mean you agree to sex, as I'm sure I don't need to tell you.

Also, I consider it rape if the woman is drunk/drugged off her *** and is passed out and the man has sex with her. Or, if she is too drunk/drugged to even engage in sex or forcefully say "no". She may be conscious, but physically unable to really DO anything. It may not be violent, but it's still rape.

WI Crippler · 01-10-08, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivrrat

I'm not referring to getting drunk and regretting having sex. I don't consider that rape either. I consider it rape when a person FORCES another person to have sex, and that doesn't necessarily have to be violent. In my case, I was drugged by my rapists to the point that I was physically unable to resist them - though I was able to speak a little, but only meekly. (I was practically paralyzed) While it wasn't violent, it was still very much a rape.

So, when people say "date rape", I don't think of a woman waking up and regretting her previous night's decision. I think of a man not accepting "no", or drugging his date, etc. Date rape simply means that the woman was willingly with the man in a specific situation - that she knew him. But going to a bar with a man doesn't mean you agree to sex, as I'm sure I don't need to tell you.

Also, I consider it rape if the woman is drunk/drugged off her *** and is passed out and the man has sex with her. Or, if she is too drunk/drugged to even engage in sex or forcefully say "no". She may be conscious, but physically unable to really DO anything. It may not be violent, but it's still rape.

I would consider drugging some one to the point they are incapable of resisting to most certainley be rape.

Drunken situations can be a little different, in that both parties are usually drunk and both have perceptions that might differ. In a situation with my wife, we were both drunk after a wedding and I woke up and wanted some action about 3 in the morning. So I gently touched and stroked her the way I would if I were going to have sex with her, and after a bit her body responded to me in a way that told me we were a go. Shortly thereafter my wife woke up and was like "What the hell are you doing"