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ACA, rising healthcare costs, and shortage of doctors

ReformCollege said:
Oh of course, I didn't catch that. It appeared you were saying that lowering costs would cause denial of care. I think we need to rework the mechanisms so that denial of care gets passed onto the healthcare provider rather than the consumer.

Thing is, so much of health care costs are purposely bloated. Hospitals might charge you an insurance company 30 grand for a hospital stay, but this number will easily be negotiated down to a couple thousand. Those without health insurance won't know to negotiate prices, and it seems pretty fishy when the hand you a bill for 30 grand but will just as quickly take 2 grand of your money without fuss.

We need far more transparency of costs, and far more negotiations to bring down costs.
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One of the things about cost right now is there is no real oversight or connection between the cost and the rationale for the cost. We know hospitals, for example, hike parices to pay for those who don't pay. But how much? Do they charge more than they need? Less? Just the right amount? And if they negotiate with the insurance companies, if one gets a lower rate than another, who is picking up the difference?

It's just a little ad hoc and we really don't know all we should know.

Now, 30 grand to 2 grand seems more than fishy, but I'd be interested to see the actual numbers.
 
Cost control in the ACA is in the form of % of salary limits.

As for Dr's.

We need to eliminate the limits the AMA has on students and make it unlimited just like Mechanical Engineers.........LOL
( we engineers all know the result that leads too!! )

Dr pay for 4 years college at regular rate as all other students.
then they get PAID APPRENTICSIP. 40 hr work week, 75% pay (of $150k)

Also pay all "specialties" the same.
 
johnny_rebson said:
Be careful what you wish for. ObamaCare is going to put Papa John's out of business.
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papa johns will spend .20 per pizza for Obama care. ( their figures even)

Papa johns makes billions per year.......they can afford it.......maybe the exec's will have to accept $50mil this year instead of $60 mil LMAO!!!!
 
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