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The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group.

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WHY JEWS HATE GUNS

It is an article written by Jewish gun owners to try and explain why so many of their own are at the forefront of so many gun banning efforts.
They give several reasons why some want to ban guns and as I got halfway through it, I noticed a similarity to almost all who hate guns here at DP.
Their arguments fit EXACTLY with those given in this article.
It is a very good read.
The whole website is a good one.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

WHY JEWS HATE GUNS

It is an article written by Jewish gun owners to try and explain why so many of their own are at the forefront of so many gun banning efforts.
They give several reasons why some want to ban guns and as I got halfway through it, I noticed a similarity to almost all who hate guns here at DP.
Their arguments fit EXACTLY with those given in this article.
It is a very good read.
The whole website is a good one.

I know the article is claimed to have been written by jewish people but it's probably one of the most antisemitic things I read
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

I know the article is claimed to have been written by jewish people but it's probably one of the most antisemitic things I read

The group that puts out that article is well known in the gun rights movement and no-they aren't anti semitic and yes they are Jews. The head of the Second Amendment Foundation is Jewish BTW. but the US anti gun movement has far more Jews in leadership position than a group that has 2% of the population would suggest. Leaders of the anti gun movement in the senate include Feinstein, Boxer, Schumer and the late Howard Metzenbaum, all Jewish. The group that wrote the article in question did so because they, Jewish gun owners, were tired of being stereotyped as anti gun because of their ethnicity.

One of America's leading Jewish conservatives-Federalist founder Peter Keisler (former US Attorney General[acting Bush 2} and well regarded Supreme Court Litigator noted that so many Jews are anti gun because their parents or grandparents came from areas of Europe (Russia, Germany, Poland) where the only people who could own guns were those oppressing Jews.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

The group that puts out that article is well known in the gun rights movement and no-they aren't anti semitic and yes they are Jews. The head of the Second Amendment Foundation is Jewish BTW. but the US anti gun movement has far more Jews in leadership position than a group that has 2% of the population would suggest. Leaders of the anti gun movement in the senate include Feinstein, Boxer, Schumer and the late Howard Metzenbaum, all Jewish. The group that wrote the article in question did so because they, Jewish gun owners, were tired of being stereotyped as anti gun because of their ethnicity.

One of America's leading Jewish conservatives-Federalist founder Peter Keisler (former US Attorney General[acting Bush 2} and well regarded Supreme Court Litigator noted that so many Jews are anti gun because their parents or grandparents came from areas of Europe (Russia, Germany, Poland) where the only people who could own guns were those oppressing Jews.

So do doctors, lawyers, the media and Hollywood... what exactly are you suggesting?
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

So do doctors, lawyers, the media and Hollywood... what exactly are you suggesting?

I don't equate learned professions with a political bias. However, you make a sound point-the Democrat Party leadership and office holders consist of far more than 2% Jewish. Since the gun banning movement is essentially a part of the leftwing political movement it makes sense that a group that votes Democrat 75% of the time would support gun bans. And since Jews have far more leadership roles in that party (then say blacks who have 6X the population) it makes sense that Jews would also be overrepresented in movements that exist to support the Democratic Party
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

WHY JEWS HATE GUNS

It is an article written by Jewish gun owners to try and explain why so many of their own are at the forefront of so many gun banning efforts.
They give several reasons why some want to ban guns and as I got halfway through it, I noticed a similarity to almost all who hate guns here at DP.
Their arguments fit EXACTLY with those given in this article.
It is a very good read.
The whole website is a good one.


Good stuff and yes, most of it reflects on anti-gun types in general, not just anti-RKBA Jews.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

The group that puts out that article is well known in the gun rights movement and no-they aren't anti semitic and yes they are Jews. The head of the Second Amendment Foundation is Jewish BTW. but the US anti gun movement has far more Jews in leadership position than a group that has 2% of the population would suggest. Leaders of the anti gun movement in the senate include Feinstein, Boxer, Schumer and the late Howard Metzenbaum, all Jewish. The group that wrote the article in question did so because they, Jewish gun owners, were tired of being stereotyped as anti gun because of their ethnicity.

One of America's leading Jewish conservatives-Federalist founder Peter Keisler (former US Attorney General[acting Bush 2} and well regarded Supreme Court Litigator noted that so many Jews are anti gun because their parents or grandparents came from areas of Europe (Russia, Germany, Poland) where the only people who could own guns were those oppressing Jews.

Apparently they have not figured out it is government with a monopoly of guns that is the problem. I find it amusing that the world is filled with fools who trust government who are the greatest killers we have ever known in preference to trusting their fellow citizens.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

WHY JEWS HATE GUNS

It is an article written by Jewish gun owners to try and explain why so many of their own are at the forefront of so many gun banning efforts.
They give several reasons why some want to ban guns and as I got halfway through it, I noticed a similarity to almost all who hate guns here at DP.
Their arguments fit EXACTLY with those given in this article.
It is a very good read.
The whole website is a good one.

Raises some interesting points about psychology and gun control. They also have some other excellent papers that will help understand why gun control advocates behave the way they do.

Raging Against Self Defense:A psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality

The Seven Varieties of Gun Control Advocate
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

I know the article is claimed to have been written by jewish people but it's probably one of the most antisemitic things I read

I don't think it is anti-Jewish its a general hatred of collaborators and appeasers of which there are always plenty of in nations or groups that allow provocateurs to indoctrinate citizens

The Jews of Nazi Germany ignored all good advice to challenge the German propaganda in the same way firearm organisations refuse to act and thus owners ignore gun control propaganda.

Any group that ignores the propaganda of hate and fear is simply begging to be removed.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

I don't think it is anti-Jewish its a general hatred of collaborators and appeasers of which there are always plenty of in nations or groups that allow provocateurs to indoctrinate citizens

The Jews of Nazi Germany ignored all good advice to challenge the German propaganda in the same way firearm organisations refuse to act and thus owners ignore gun control propaganda.

Any group that ignores the propaganda of hate and fear is simply begging to be removed.

Jews who want gun control are nazi collaborators..

Well I guess I'll just...

:inandout:
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

Good stuff and yes, most of it reflects on anti-gun types in general, not just anti-RKBA Jews.

Thank you, that is why I posted it.
In reading threads here i noticed some of those same characteristics of those involved in these threads.
Their website gives even more striking and accurate examples.

They even said at the bottom of one page they know they will be accused of being anti-Semitic for their policies by those that do not read it through....and as predicted...it happened.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

WHY JEWS HATE GUNS

It is an article written by Jewish gun owners to try and explain why so many of their own are at the forefront of so many gun banning efforts.
They give several reasons why some want to ban guns and as I got halfway through it, I noticed a similarity to almost all who hate guns here at DP.
Their arguments fit EXACTLY with those given in this article.
It is a very good read.
The whole website is a good one.

What if people who want to see gun control don't actually hate guns?
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

What if people who want to see gun control don't actually hate guns?

Few are in that group.
That majority actually hate them and want them all confiscated by the government at bayonet point.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

Jews who want gun control are nazi collaborators..

Well I guess I'll just...

:inandout:

I was trying to figure what the most stupid or idiotic response I had had this year was. You just made the top of the list.

Of course to post your false claim you neglected to quote and thought hey I can throw some crap into this.....

What is it with people who have nothing to say.......
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

What if people who want to see gun control don't actually hate guns?

Where are they? Every person who wants gun control does so out of fear at the very least. The only possible exceptions are those who are paid to control the strategy.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

What if people who want to see gun control don't actually hate guns?

some don't-they own guns. they just don't want other people to own guns. that's true with many politicians and some rich elitists. what they hate are people who don't agree with them owning guns. Samurai owned swords in Japan. They killed commoners who were caught with swords.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

Where are they? Every person who wants gun control does so out of fear at the very least. The only possible exceptions are those who are paid to control the strategy.

I think what you mean to say is that many gun controllers fear people they don't agree with being armed
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

I think what you mean to say is that many gun controllers fear people they don't agree with being armed



I'm fine with it.


Been some articles recently about minorities and liberals arming themselves. I'm good with that... because ultimately it means more people who will be invested in the RKBA, and fewer anti's.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

WHY JEWS HATE GUNS

It is an article written by Jewish gun owners to try and explain why so many of their own are at the forefront of so many gun banning efforts.
They give several reasons why some want to ban guns and as I got halfway through it, I noticed a similarity to almost all who hate guns here at DP.
Their arguments fit EXACTLY with those given in this article.
It is a very good read.
The whole website is a good one.

The list seems looks like something I would put together and then easily dispel to support my opinion.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

The list seems looks like something I would put together and then easily dispel to support my opinion.

Give it your best shot
most of the gun hate in this country-at the leadership level is based on hatred of the voting patterns of pro gun voters and the politicians we support. True, some of the rank and file members of the anti gun groups have a personal loathing of guns-often those whose anti gun position is due to an emotional based reaction to a personal tragedy-such as a parent who committed suicide with a firearm or someone who is the relative of a crime victim. But the elites who push gun control often own guns or have armed guards
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

I think what you mean to say is that many gun controllers fear people they don't agree with being armed

No ALL with the exception of those that drive gun control. Within the public the desire for gun control is born out of fear.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

I'm fine with it.


Been some articles recently about minorities and liberals arming themselves. I'm good with that... because ultimately it means more people who will be invested in the RKBA, and fewer anti's.

People who buy guns cannot be relied on to support the right as more and more firearm owner supporting gun control shows. They lack any understanding of the issues and have no defence against gun control propaganda.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

People who buy guns cannot be relied on to support the right as more and more firearm owner supporting gun control shows. They lack any understanding of the issues and have no defence against gun control propaganda.

many uneducated gun owners don't realize that the gun control movement is like cancer-it doesn't go away on its own. They think that if they agree to some benign gun control schemes, the gun banners will stop. It doesn't work that way How many gun control advocates have ever said "we have enough gun control"?

as long as there is any crime-the gun haters will push for more restrictions no matter how detached the restrictions are from the crime. Look at the Hughes amendment for edification
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

many uneducated gun owners don't realize that the gun control movement is like cancer-it doesn't go away on its own. They think that if they agree to some benign gun control schemes, the gun banners will stop. It doesn't work that way How many gun control advocates have ever said "we have enough gun control"?

None and you will never hear it ;)

The problem of a lack of education in both firearm owners and the public is one firearm organisations must remedy. I cannot think of any other organisation or person who is going to do this vital task. It point to the single greatest weakness firearm owners have in combatting the propaganda of gun control.

as long as there is any crime-the gun haters will push for more restrictions no matter how detached the restrictions are from the crime. Look at the Hughes amendment for edification

Exactly. Gun control is never ever going to give up until we make it impossible for them to win with lies.
 
Re: The Psychology of those who hate guns....a good read from a Jewish Gunowner Group

I don't think it is anti-Jewish its a general hatred of collaborators and appeasers of which there are always plenty of in nations or groups that allow provocateurs to indoctrinate citizens

The Jews of Nazi Germany ignored all good advice to challenge the German propaganda in the same way firearm organisations refuse to act and thus owners ignore gun control propaganda.

Any group that ignores the propaganda of hate and fear is simply begging to be removed.

The Jews of Nazi Germany ignored all good advice to challenge the German propaganda

THAT, I think is the most ignorant and stupid statement I've ever read.
 
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