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One More Reason for Gun Ownership

That paranoia is clearly evident in this thread, as well as other threads on DP that concern "gun control".
Also... If you care at all about being logically consistent... by your reckoning, all laws apply only to those that follow them.

As of when did criminals take much note of laws? You don't think much though do you. Typical of emotional assertions without evidence or reason.

So what's your point? We shouldn't have laws?

Irrelevant emotional response that lacks any understanding.
 
Alright folks. I can only deal with one or two zealots at a time.
I'm going to have to cede my ground here to your echo chamber.

Good luck having a reasonable exchange with the next poster who doesn't toe the NRA-party line.
 
Alright folks. I can only deal with one or two zealots at a time.
I'm going to have to cede my ground here to your echo chamber.

Good luck having a reasonable exchange with the next poster who doesn't toe the NRA-party line.

Are the questions getting too hard?
 
If we don't punish people for breaking them, what good are the laws? If they don't deter criminals, what good are the laws? If they aren't enforceable, what good are the laws?

The reason they are not enforced is because they are a waste of time and resources that simply cannot work. No gun control law can work, that is impossible.
 
That paranoia is clearly evident in this thread, as well as other threads on DP that concern "gun control".
Also... If you care at all about being logically consistent... by your reckoning, all laws apply only to those that follow them.
So what's your point? We shouldn't have laws?

that's part of the gun ban program. Some gun restrictionists call for "moderate" steps while others call for bans-like Clinton who wanted a ban on modern sporting rifles. The each group helps the other. The banners make the "moderate" steps look "more reasonable and those calling for moderate restrictions claim we pro gun advocates are "paranoid"

the real paranoia-those who think honest citizens who have not misused firearms should be subject to more restrictions to prevent them from ultimately doing what they have not ever done
 
Alright folks. I can only deal with one or two zealots at a time.
I'm going to have to cede my ground here to your echo chamber.

Good luck having a reasonable exchange with the next poster who doesn't toe the NRA-party line.

this is typical on this forum. Someone who really hasn't spent much time thinking his anti gun arguments through, gets upset when his fuzzy thinking is challenged by people who really understands this issue


again-its already ILLEGAL for anyone with a felony record, a fugitive, adjudicated incompetent or under indictment (and more) to own, possess, use or keep any firearm. ANY FIREARM. now who is impacted by bans on

1) machine guns made after may 19, 1986

2) magazines of a certain capacity

3) handguns (you seem to forget DC and Chicago banned handguns for years-you said no one wants to ban handguns)

4) modern sporting rifles

who is impacted by those laws-not criminals-they cannot own any firearms before those above laws are passed. IT ONLY impacts those of us who can own firearms legally
 
The reason they are not enforced is because they are a waste of time and resources that simply cannot work. No gun control law can work, that is impossible.

we agree and disagree-you are right as to crime control but that, of course is not the real motivation behind "gun control"

gun control is VERY EFFECTIVE in terms of harassing honest gun owners and restricting their rights and that is why GC is so popular with the left
 
IT ONLY impacts those of us who can own firearms legally

My favorite is when the Democrats in the Colorado legislature were forcing their gun control laws through post Aurora. During the "debate" on our "universal" background check law they added a provision that when a trust purchased a firearm, all members of that trust had to undergo another background check. Since criminals will never tie their name to the serial number of a firearm in a legal document, this provision was aimed directly at the law abiding citizens of the state of Colorado.
 
Are the questions getting too hard?

Obviously they are because he can take as long as he likes with each answer. We are patient and interested to see what he comes up with. Unlike making excuses because you know you cannot defend your claims. I'm right but don't have the time or patience...... I'm sure he will excuse a quite laugh at the petulant childishness of that.

RickJames3000 You wanted a discussion. Take all night but answer what people who were kind enough to offer you in responses. We don't guarantee you are going to like them. Give it your best shot the only concern here is what can be shown to be valid. We are no so cavalier about our safety as to give it up because somebody thinks it is a good idea.
 
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My favorite is when the Democrats in the Colorado legislature were forcing their gun control laws through post Aurora. During the "debate" on our "universal" background check law they added a provision that when a trust purchased a firearm, all members of that trust had to undergo another background check. Since criminals will never tie their name to the serial number of a firearm in a legal document, this provision was aimed directly at the law abiding citizens of the state of Colorado.

same with the ban on machine guns made after 5/19/86. The only people that hurt were those who wanted to buy machine guns legally-it caused those able to be owned by private citizens to skyrocket in cost. its been over 80 years since a privately owned legal machine gun was used in a crime of violence.

registration only applies to legal gun owners. Criminals cannot be charged for failing to register a firearm
 
we agree and disagree-you are right as to crime control but that, of course is not the real motivation behind "gun control"

:lol: Do we?

gun control is VERY EFFECTIVE in terms of harassing honest gun owners and restricting their rights and that is why GC is so popular with the left

Ah! but I don't think that is what gun control claimed these laws would do. ;)

But we are actually in agreement. Harassment is exactly what gun control wanted.
 
Alright folks. I can only deal with one or two zealots at a time.
I'm going to have to cede my ground here to your echo chamber.

Good luck having a reasonable exchange with the next poster who doesn't toe the NRA-party line.

Your preference to emotionalise and use derogatory terms is noted as an idiotic way to try and debate anyone. It would seem to you it is more important to personalise your refuted claims as some kind of justification of your fear and hatred.

The only zealot here is you because your claims ly shattered before you and not once have you managed to defend a single counter claim of your irrational demands and still you cling to them. You are most welcome to show a single claim that you have successfully defended.

If you can quote from NRA publications to prove your case I will be the most surprised person in the world. However if you would like me to compare your gun control dogma to show who is quoting who I would love you to challenge me after you have proof of your asinine claim
 
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