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How to make gun control propagand even if you only have police guns.

Yes. He is a public politician on the national scale, of course he would have expressed condolences for any attack.

That wasn't an intentionally violent attack. It was a bus driver who was careless which cost lives. Big difference in intent.

I understand the point you're making. And you very well MIGHT be correct. But, in this instance, we know you are not. We know reports said gun violence and we know he corrected when media did. Those are the facts.

Perhaps we can move it to the Politically Correct forum, since the OP obviously was offended by the word gun. We need to provide a safe space. ;)

You have yet to show how a rabidly anti-gun politician did not use the opportunity as stated. Your claims are just pie in the sky politicising a fast back peddle when found incorrect and indefensible. The chances of your version being correct approach zero. Watch out for the landing I believe it is hard for pies shot out of the sky.
 
Nope I got it right first time. He never even bothered to check.
He reported what the news reported. Exactly what's your issue here...you know, besides the obvious attempt to drum up fake outrage?
what are you blathering about me for?
To illustrate the hypocrisy of others. I'm not blaming or accusing you of anything.
I merely reported what the media was calling it.
That's exactly correct. And that's exactly what Kaine did. He expressed condolences based on the information at the time, just as you posted based on the information at the time.

I never politicized it at the time
I never said you did, nor was it even intended to be taken that way. In fact, it was intended to be taken in just the opposite manner. You were simply commenting based on the information at the time...same as Kaine.

Fruitcake Kaine tried to use it to advance his bannerhoid obsessions

Was his next tweet about advancing his knife and car bannerhoid obsession? You know, the one where he corrected his previous tweet?

No, just as you commented based on the information you had, so did he. Excusing one side for doing the same you condemn the other for is silly and childish and I consider you to be above such actions.
How many donuts would that be?
Umm...considering you did not address, in any way, what I said, I have no idea why you think you posted something relevant. In fact, it seemed a little detached from reality, to be quite honest.

I was making the point that Kaine did the same as TD and Kal'Stang. Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with that. Do you think you might try posting something valid instead of vomiting rhetoric? Or is that impossible for you to do?

It's really simple. Kaine mentioned gun violence because that was what was being reported. When reports later came out it wasn't gun violence, he posted another tweet correcting his first and noted it was vehicle and knife which were used in the attack. He was honest. You did not include his correction, which suggests you do not care about his honesty, only about faking outrage.

It never ceases to amaze me how badly some people want to be offended, even if it means they have to ignore reality to do it.
 
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The huge an obvious difference is that "gun violence" was not replaced with "knife violence" and/or "car violence" - suddenly the tools used by the criminal lack any special importance at all. That is the key as to why the thread was placed here.
Um, the tweet CLEARLY said the "attacker" used vehicle and knife. Attacker means one committing the violent act.

I feel as if you (and whomever else agrees with you on this) are splitting hairs in an effort to find a way to be offended. If Kaine had said gun violence and then never corrected it, I could understand your argument. Heck, I'd agree with you (though for different reasons, I'm sure). But he did. As soon as information changed, his Twitter accounted corrected his previously inaccurate statement, using the word "attacker" with vehicle and knife, which indicates violence.

I feel as if you are missing the forest for the trees. You're criticizing the way he parsed the words in the second tweet while ignoring what the second tweet means and signifies.

For what it is worth, I know Internet tends to lose tone. Please understand my post towards you is not harsh nor sarcastic, as I genuinely enjoy and respect your posts, even if we don't always agree.

As to the intent (motive), I seriously doubt that makes the act (causing multiple student victims) any less "horrifying and senseless" to the victims, their families or their friends.
I couldn't say, I've been fortunate not to have to experience that. But I'm sure you recognize there's a HUGE difference in accidents and planned attacks, correct? Accidents happen all the time (though, admittedly, not with children dying on a school bus), but planned attacks on college campuses, where shots are fired (yes, by police) are not so common.
Like I said your reading comprehension is nonexistent
No, my reading comprehension is just fine. We both know why you didn't answer the question before. And the reason you didn't answer it before is why I insisted on you answering it plainly.

Once again you dont have it correct, you have not once in this entire thread had it correct.
I'm always correct. Just because what I'm saying doesn't align with what you want to hear, it doesn't make what I'm saying any less accurate.

I have already explained the difference between talking about a subject with misinformation and using that misinformation to push a political agenda.
Yes and I already said this thread is a great example of using misinformation to push a political agenda. I've already demonstrated that.

What you have not done, at any point, is show that Kaine deliberately used misinformation to push an agenda. That's all been in your head and that's why I keep referring to other posters. Just like TD or Kal simply posted based on the information at hand, so did Kaine. So your made up belief that Kaine somehow knew it wasn't gun violence but claimed it anyways, all to institute whatever gun control measures you think he had in mind at the time while he twirled his evil mustache he doesn't have is just nonsense. As I have been trying to politely point out to you repeatedly.

In fairness, I don't think your problem was reading comprehension, I think the problem was you just don't care about the facts. You want to follow in the footsteps of the opening post and just get outraged, even if there's really nothing to be outraged about.

Perhaps we really do need a safe space, ttwtt.
 
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So many posts in this thread are dishonest. The only honest ones are from Slyfox696 and Henrin.
 
He reported what the news reported. Exactly what's your issue here...you know, besides the obvious attempt to drum up fake outrage?

He used it to forward his agenda as I have already posted. You are welcome to prove me wrong.

To illustrate the hypocrisy of others. I'm not blaming or accusing you of anything.

You seem to be writing a lot of twaddle in defence of a known rabid gun control advocate.

That's exactly correct. And that's exactly what Kaine did. He expressed condolences based on the information at the time, just as you posted based on the information at the time.

What a politician expresses and what the mean by it are two different things. If Kaine had any sympathy he would be removing the laws that turned schools into shooting galleries. Now that is hypocrisy when one supports the death of children and pretends concern for vehicle and knife deaths.

I never said you did, nor was it even intended to be taken that way. In fact, it was intended to be taken in just the opposite manner. You were simply commenting based on the information at the time...same as Kaine.

Kaine intended his first message there is no doubt of that or he would not have posted it. He did not offer condolences then did he but launched an attack on firearm owners.

Was his next tweet about advancing his knife and car bannerhoid obsession? You know, the one where he corrected his previous tweet?

Boo hoo to late he should have done that in the first place and this is faked sincerity. He was covering up his mistake in order not to look like an idiot.

No, just as you commented based on the information you had, so did he. Excusing one side for doing the same you condemn the other for is silly and childish and I consider you to be above such actions.

Your hyperbole is noted and out of place Kaine made the first and telling comment and used what he thought was an opportunity. It bit him but he is responsible for his actions and idiotic attack.

Umm...considering you did not address, in any way, what I said, I have no idea why you think you posted something relevant. In fact, it seemed a little detached from reality, to be quite honest.

I was making the point that Kaine did the same as TD and Kal'Stang. Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with that. Do you think you might try posting something valid instead of vomiting rhetoric? Or is that impossible for you to do?

It's really simple. Kaine mentioned gun violence because that was what was being reported. When reports later came out it wasn't gun violence, he posted another tweet correcting his first and noted it was vehicle and knife which were used in the attack. He was honest. You did not include his correction, which suggests you do not care about his honesty, only about faking outrage.

It never ceases to amaze me how badly some people want to be offended, even if it means they have to ignore reality to do it.

Some people try harder than others by defending the indefensible supporters of human misery to forward their agenda.

Reality is Kaine leapt at the opportunity he thought he was presented with to slander a segment of society that is not justified. Now can you prove that wrong?

Apologising after he found out is just hypocrisy.
 
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So many posts in this thread are dishonest. The only honest ones are from Slyfox696 and Henrin.

I would agree that your post is dishonest.
 
So many posts in this thread are dishonest. The only honest ones are from Slyfox696 and Henrin.

I'm sure you would agree his first reaction was spoken from his agenda and his second was to cover his mistake. You are welcome to prove me wrong.
 
Tim Kaine-the geeky Grinch who tried to steal Christmas-is another reactionary bannerrhoid politician. Thank God he won't be in office nationally

Absolutely agree the fact that it turned sour for Kaine is the only reason he corrected his muck racking statement.
 
He used it to forward his agenda as I have already posted. You are welcome to prove me wrong.
I have. Repeatedly. You're welcome.

You seem to be writing a lot of twaddle in defence of a known rabid gun control advocate.
Pointing out Kaine did the same as TD and Kal'Stang, but you don't have a problem with them doing it is "twaddle"? No, it's the recognition of hypocrisy. At least one of us can do it.

What a politician expresses and what the mean by it are two different things.
Well, THANK GOD we have you here to tell us what Kaine ACTUALLY meant when he expressed his sympathies. What would we ever do without you? :roll:

I'm not even going to read the rest of your post, as I'm sure it's the same nonsense these first three comments have been. At the end of the day, you're just looking for a reason to get upset and when you don't have one, you just make one up.

If you feel you actually made a good point and didn't just vomit nonsense then feel free to re-post it and I'll respond. But if all you have is making up what you want to pretend Kaine was doing, despite have zero evidence to support it, while you ignore the fact he commented based on the information at the time and corrected it later, then you can save it.
 
I have. Repeatedly. You're welcome.

You have done no such thing and any claim you have is delusional. Yoiu made a bunce of asstertion as excuse for his behaviour and each one was rebutted. Please post a link or copy where you have addressed this.

Pointing out Kaine did the same as TD and Kal'Stang, but you don't have a problem with them doing it is "twaddle"? No, it's the recognition of hypocrisy. At least one of us can do it.

Your claime d excuse wre fuly addressed with far more probable reaction. You have not give any evidence that that is wrong or even addressed the refuting claims. Claiming your now refuted claims still stand is just asinine.

Well, THANK GOD we have you here to tell us what Kaine ACTUALLY meant when he expressed his sympathies. What would we ever do without you? :roll:

I think I did a far more accurate job than your attempt to polish a turd.

I'm not even going to read the rest of your post, as I'm sure it's the same nonsense these first three comments have been. At the end of the day, you're just looking for a reason to get upset and when you don't have one, you just make one up.

There you go the standard of all those gun control advocates that have no valid response, just dismiss it. That is OK but you still have egg on your face.

If you feel you actually made a good point and didn't just vomit nonsense then feel free to re-post it and I'll respond. But if all you have is making up what you want to pretend Kaine was doing, despite have zero evidence to support it, while you ignore the fact he commented based on the information at the time and corrected it later, then you can save it.

The only spewing so far here has been your response and that of Kaine. The man could not wait to get his rabid message out. That is not defensible based on the fact he apologised and only now expressed condolences. That was a politician looking after his image.

What is your problem have I suggested or claimed anything because he was wrong as was the initial data? Please quote were I made such a claim.

Neither you or I know what Kaine was doing my guestimation is based on his proven record. Yours is based on nothing that supports it that cannot be shown to probably be wrong. Your only intent was to try and polish a turd.

Since you have no other evidence this is done and the record stands as my basis of validity. You just wasted my time and yours.
 
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