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Trump To Push For Nationwide Concealed Carry

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[h=1]Trump To Push For Nationwide Concealed Carry So That Citizens Everywhere Can Defend Themselves Against Violence[/h]http://www.trump.news/2016-11-22-trump-to-push-for-nationwide-concealed-carry-so-that-citizens-everywhere-can-defend-themselves-against-violence.html

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Trump News? Oh boy.........

Anyways, isn't this a state issue?
 
[h=1]Trump To Push For Nationwide Concealed Carry So That Citizens Everywhere Can Defend Themselves Against Violence[/h]http://www.trump.news/2016-11-22-trump-to-push-for-nationwide-concealed-carry-so-that-citizens-everywhere-can-defend-themselves-against-violence.html

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I actually have some reservations about that based on my view of federalism and state powers.
 
Good!

I hope it goes somewhere:

“The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway, That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.”

whats funny Ive been in support of this for two decades now and have posted it here for years that my CWP should work just like my DL and be recognized everywhere. A couple of extreme nutters (like 2 or 3) hated the idea and attacked it LMAO
 
Trump News? Oh boy.........

Anyways, isn't this a state issue?

2nd Amendment is national, and the Privileges and Immunities Clause in Article IV, Section 2, as well as in the 14th Amendment recognizes and protects, IMHO, the right for a person that has been granted a concealed carry privilege license in one state to have that license recognized and respected in all other states.
 
yes Trump is mentally unbalanced and dangerous. And this is just the latest example.
 

It appears that in addition to hoping for the government to ban all sorts of firearms from being owned by honest citizens, you are hoping that people cannot carry firearms in your state. Hopefully, as more states get rid of the idiotic MAY ISSUE standard, criminals who don't want to be shot while plying their nefarious trade, will migrate to states that are trying to create safer working environments for rapists, robbers, murderers and muggers. Its a win win situation. You all who oppose armed victims will get all the mopes you can handle and then some, while we in free states won't have to waste our ammo on scumbags and nut jobs.
 
I actually have some reservations about that based on my view of federalism and state powers.

Article IV, Section 2, and the 14th Amendment - P&I Clause - should be enough to make any license issued in any state valid in all states, rather than a federal license, although I don't have a problem with a federal permit as long as it's done under "must issue" rather than "may or may not." If your not a felon or a violent offender or a nut? You get it issued - and empower the local sheriff or chief of police to do the issuance as they do now.
 
[h=1]Trump To Push For Nationwide Concealed Carry So That Citizens Everywhere Can Defend Themselves Against Violence[/h]http://www.trump.news/2016-11-22-trump-to-push-for-nationwide-concealed-carry-so-that-citizens-everywhere-can-defend-themselves-against-violence.html

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"Trump News" is some off the wall prepper site. I'm not going to bother with it.
 
2nd Amendment is national, and the Privileges and Immunities Clause in Article IV, Section 2, as well as in the 14th Amendment recognizes and protects, IMHO, the right for a person that has been granted a concealed carry privilege license in one state to have that license recognized and respected in all other states.

I'm all for that and I'm a fan of Arizona's "Permitless Carry" law. I'm just not convinced that if a state requires guns to be in plain site constitutes an infringement. I could probably be convinced easily though since I'm not against it. :2razz:
 
Article IV, Section 2, and the 14th Amendment - P&I Clause - should be enough to make any license issued in any state valid in all states, rather than a federal license, although I don't have a problem with a federal permit as long as it's done under "must issue" rather than "may or may not." If your not a felon or a violent offender or a nut? You get it issued - and empower the local sheriff or chief of police to do the issuance as they do now.

that isn't a bad idea. I actually don't have issues with a shooting test before someone is issued a CCW. and some states don't require that.
 
2nd Amendment is national, and the Privileges and Immunities Clause in Article IV, Section 2, as well as in the 14th Amendment recognizes and protects, IMHO, the right for a person that has been granted a concealed carry privilege license in one state to have that license recognized and respected in all other states.

The bolded above is a problem in that it turns a right into a state issued privilege. A right exists unless removed by due process whereas a privilege must be earned - often at considerable expense.
 
2nd Amendment is national, and the Privileges and Immunities Clause in Article IV, Section 2, as well as in the 14th Amendment recognizes and protects, IMHO, the right for a person that has been granted a concealed carry privilege license in one state to have that license recognized and respected in all other states.

Can't carry in California with an out of state permit.
 
that isn't a bad idea. I actually don't have issues with a shooting test before someone is issued a CCW. and some states don't require that.

I don't have a problem with that either. I think it's a good idea.
 
Can't carry in California with an out of state permit.

yeah and California is idiotic when it comes to issuing the permits. Its a may issue state meaning corrupt bureaucrats can keep people disarmed. Hopefully some Trump appointed Judges can do what some other judges have done-rule MAY ISSUE is arbitrary and capricious and thus a violation of the second amendment as incorporated by McDonald. then rich white movie stars or Democrat party big wigs won't be the only people to get CCW permits in the land of socialist malaise
 
I actually have some reservations about that based on my view of federalism and state powers.

me too.

It sounds nice on its face, but think of the legal precedent it might set.
I still think it best if individual states make reciprocal agreements between themselves.

I have not entertained getting a CCW because of the harassment out-of-state holders get by LEOs in gun hating states.
There are several cases where they were pulled over simply because their vehicle was flagged by tag number as having an owner who has a CCW.
Once pulled over they rip the vehicle apart looking to the weapon that the owner had left at home in his home state.
Not finding one, they then go on a fishing expedition to find something, anything to nail them for.
After all, they are a hated gun owner and must be held in check, and made an example of, in their fair state.

This has happened in MD, NY, IL, MA, and several other gun hating states.
Once you get that CCW, your vehicle tags are flagged by every LEO organization in the country.
 
me too.

It sounds nice on its face, but think of the legal precedent it might set.
I still think it best if individual states make reciprocal agreements between themselves.

I have not entertained getting a CCW because of the harassment out-of-state holders get by LEOs in gun hating states.
There are several cases where they were pulled over simply because their vehicle was flagged by tag number as having an owner who has a CCW.
Once pulled over they rip the vehicle apart looking to the weapon that the owner had left at home in his home state.
Not finding one, they then go on a fishing expedition to find something, anything to nail them for.
After all, they are a hated gun owner and must be held in check, and made an example of, in their fair state.

This has happened in MD, NY, IL, MA, and several other gun hating states.
Once you get that CCW, your vehicle tags are flagged by every LEO organization in the country.

I live in Colorado. That means I'll never drive my own vehicle in those eastern states and that all the surrounding states already have a reason to pull over anyone with Colorado tags.
 
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