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The Clinton Gun control agenda

TurtleDude

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Hillary is already acting as if she has won. And she may well have. But its doubtful she will get congress and she will lose seats in 2018. So what is she planning on doing?

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“If there’s still Republican control in Congress, and if Hillary is elected, is there anything she can do?” Feingold answers, “Well, there might be executive order.”
The video also includes footage of one of the hosts of the fundraiser, Integrated Archive Systems CEO Amy Rao, expressing how she thinks Clinton would pursue control. In regards to guns, Rao told O’Keefe, “Hillary wants to shut it down,” adding, “If we can get guns away from everyone in this country, she’ll close loopholes, she’ll get rid of assault weapons, she will get rid of being able to buy, you know, unlimited bullets…” Rao also hosted a fundraiser for Clinton last August.
 
Hillary will do about as much as Obama did.

Which means we'll get 4 more years (minimum) of idiotic, fearmongering, scaremongering nonsense about how all of our guns will be banned and confiscated before the end of business today.

Run. Run. Run. They're coming for our guns. Run. Run. Run.

:roll:
 
The President can't make law. Any executive order infringing upon our civil rights can be ignored.
 
Dragonfly said:
Hillary will do about as much as Obama did.

Which means we'll get 4 more years (minimum) of idiotic, fearmongering, scaremongering nonsense about how all of our guns will be banned and confiscated before the end of business today.

Run. Run. Run. They're coming for our guns. Run. Run. Run.

:roll:
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If Clinton loads up The Supreme Court with Liberal justices to make unconstitutional rulings, then there is most certainly something to worry about.
 
apdst said:
If Clinton loads up The Supreme Court with Liberal justices to make unconstitutional rulings, then there is most certainly something to worry about.
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Yeah...I listened to 8 friggin years of how Obama was going to destroy the 2nd Amendment, all the while watching gun sales in the USofA hit record levels every month.

Don't look now, the sky is falling, and the wolf is coming.

The gun industry and all it's supporting businesses should all be campaigning for, and voting for 4 more years of democratic rule.
They've reaped the highest profits of any business in the USofA thanks to all the FEAR people like you enjoy spreading around.
 
TurtleDude said:
Hillary is already acting as if she has won. And she may well have. But its doubtful she will get congress and she will lose seats in 2018. So what is she planning on doing?

Error | Buckeye Firearms Association


“If there’s still Republican control in Congress, and if Hillary is elected, is there anything she can do?” Feingold answers, “Well, there might be executive order.”
The video also includes footage of one of the hosts of the fundraiser, Integrated Archive Systems CEO Amy Rao, expressing how she thinks Clinton would pursue control. In regards to guns, Rao told O’Keefe, “Hillary wants to shut it down,” adding, “If we can get guns away from everyone in this country, she’ll close loopholes, she’ll get rid of assault weapons, she will get rid of being able to buy, you know, unlimited bullets…” Rao also hosted a fundraiser for Clinton last August.
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I hope you understand that if Trump is elected, as soon as their is a mass shooting under his presidency he will succumb to the pressure and support any and all gun control that he is told to support. He'll buckle like a little bitch. Just like he was in favor of Iraq right up until it became unpopular, he supported the assault weapons ban right up until he ran as a republican, he advocated deporting every illegal immigrant until someone told him that this would be mean to which he resorted to "well we can't just kick them all out thats very harsh" etc.

And all of this "Hillary will try to do it by executive order!" is a bunch of bull**** and you know it. If Obama wouldn't even do it by executive order as a lame duck why on earth would Hillary try it.
 
roughdraft274 said:
I hope you understand that if Trump is elected, as soon as their is a mass shooting under his presidency he will succumb to the pressure and support any and all gun control that he is told to support. He'll buckle like a little bitch. Just like he was in favor of Iraq right up until it became unpopular, he supported the assault weapons ban right up until he ran as a republican, he advocated deporting every illegal immigrant until someone told him that this would be mean to which he resorted to "well we can't just kick them all out thats very harsh" etc.

And all of this "Hillary will try to do it by executive order!" is a bunch of bull**** and you know it. If Obama wouldn't even do it by executive order as a lame duck why on earth would Hillary try it.
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I guess one of us will be wrong

but I do agree with you on one thing. I don't trust Trump on guns but he might be OK

The lying bitch is guaranteed to be awful
 
Dragonfly said:
Yeah...I listened to 8 friggin years of how Obama was going to destroy the 2nd Amendment, all the while watching gun sales in the USofA hit record levels every month.

Don't look now, the sky is falling, and the wolf is coming.

The gun industry and all it's supporting businesses should all be campaigning for, and voting for 4 more years of democratic rule.
They've reaped the highest profits of any business in the USofA thanks to all the FEAR people like you enjoy spreading around.
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are you aware how Sotomayor voted on McDonald V Chicago? How Obama Judges at lower levels have voted on state bans? Kogan hasn't had a chance yet

Using your keen understanding of constitutional law and our USSC, how do you think Kagan will vote if a gun ban comes before her?
 
roughdraft274 said:
I hope you understand that if Trump is elected, as soon as their is a mass shooting under his presidency he will succumb to the pressure and support any and all gun control that he is told to support. He'll buckle like a little bitch. Just like he was in favor of Iraq right up until it became unpopular, he supported the assault weapons ban right up until he ran as a republican, he advocated deporting every illegal immigrant until someone told him that this would be mean to which he resorted to "well we can't just kick them all out thats very harsh" etc.

And all of this "Hillary will try to do it by executive order!" is a bunch of bull**** and you know it. If Obama wouldn't even do it by executive order as a lame duck why on earth would Hillary try it.
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I can give you perhaps as many as 4 reasons she will be able to pursue her goal along a different path than an EO.
 
TurtleDude said:
I guess one of us will be wrong

but I do agree with you on one thing. I don't trust Trump on guns but he might be OK

The lying bitch is guaranteed to be awful
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There is no might TD. He will buckle to anything and everything if given pressure. And he won't just buckle, he'll start actively supporting stuff like an assault weapon ban or universal back ground checks, longer waiting periods, no fly list exclusions etc and he'll even get those red neck hill billy cousin ****ers that come to his rallies to agree with him that's it's needed. He has a much better chance of getting gun control passed than Hillary, if not for the fact that he's getting his ass kicked every which way in the election.
 
ocean515 said:
I can give you perhaps as many as 4 reasons she will be able to pursue her goal along a different path than an EO.
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Well, go ahead.
 
roughdraft274 said:
There is no might TD. He will buckle to anything and everything if given pressure. And he won't just buckle, he'll start actively supporting stuff like an assault weapon ban or universal back ground checks, longer waiting periods, no fly list exclusions etc and he'll even get those red neck hill billy cousin ****ers that come to his rallies to agree with him that's it's needed. He has a much better chance of getting gun control passed than Hillary, if not for the fact that he's getting his ass kicked every which way in the election.
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What you say is true but Trump is a populist and not completely stupid that will plough on regardless like Hilliary will. Hilliary is a three speed walking stick with a mission.

That implies one can be controlled the other not. The solution to Trump stares us in the face yet nobody thinks to use it. Yes if he thinks he can gain popularity or will not be punished then like any politician he is going to do what is best for him.

To control Trump is easy, learn to object anywhere and everywhere one can and make enough noise that even the President knows pulling this lever is going to get a bucket of crap on his head.

The founders gave us a voice, best we learn to use it because nobody is coming to save our asses. Why do we so foolishly think that people who win a popularity contest cannot be brought to their knees?
 
roughdraft274 said:
I hope you understand that if Trump is elected, as soon as their is a mass shooting under his presidency he will succumb to the pressure and support any and all gun control that he is told to support. He'll buckle like a little bitch. Just like he was in favor of Iraq right up until it became unpopular, he supported the assault weapons ban right up until he ran as a republican, he advocated deporting every illegal immigrant until someone told him that this would be mean to which he resorted to "well we can't just kick them all out thats very harsh" etc.

And all of this "Hillary will try to do it by executive order!" is a bunch of bull**** and you know it. If Obama wouldn't even do it by executive order as a lame duck why on earth would Hillary try it.
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Politics is never a complete certainty when one is hovering with 50% support. Not like the late nineties when there was +60% support for more strict gun laws and we got it. One would think that by now some had managed to find a usable pattern to define winning strategy. Apparently it is still rocket science to figure public opinion holds the key not who is in power.

It seems that society, school or a group of idiots has indoctrinated firearm owners into believing government can be bought with money and politicians can be persuaded to vote with some super powerful incantation and facts. That it is useless to object or gentleman Jack who owns a firearm would never lower himself to do that.

As long as firearm owners are going to play superiority we know better and believe crap like that firearm ownership is doomed. It is just a matter of time because nobody has a clue of how to stop it.

I'll prove it. Anyone who can propose a plan they can show with reasonable evidence of how to win over gun control please post an outline of how to do this and why it will work. Don't you think it is time we were working towards a wining goal instead of getting shafted every time?
 
Any EO's Hillary issues will be along the same lines as the ones Obama issued. Her court appointments will NOT be friendly to the 2A. Those are definitely reasons to vote against her.

The real problem, however, will be with the collapse of Obamacare and the institution of "Single Payer'. Once the government is paying for your healthcare doctors will be instructed to ask about firearm ownership. That will be the method to create a registry. People who lie to their doctors about firearm ownership will, at minimum, be added to the "threat" list and it's possible that the lie will be treated as a felony.

While a move like that will be lead by Democrats it will also be supported by moderate Republicans (I'm looking at you, Jeff Flake).
 
TurtleDude said:
I guess one of us will be wrong

but I do agree with you on one thing. I don't trust Trump on guns but he might be OK

The lying bitch is guaranteed to be awful
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That rabid thing has an agenda and promises to meet. Nothing matters to a zealot except what they want.
 
TurtleDude said:
are you aware how Sotomayor voted on McDonald V Chicago? How Obama Judges at lower levels have voted on state bans? Kogan hasn't had a chance yet

Using your keen understanding of constitutional law and our USSC, how do you think Kagan will vote if a gun ban comes before her?
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I often wonder if lefties even believe some of the stupid **** they say. I am convinced many do not.
 
Crimefree said:
Anyone who reads that article and thinks these biased clowns are going to give a reasonable decision based on facts and not party politics needs a reality check. It is not possible for firearm ownership to win outright in governments courts.
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Justice Ginsberg's actions and words should forever be branded into the minds of those who used to see the Judicial Branch as a check on the other two.
 
roughdraft274 said:
There is no might TD. He will buckle to anything and everything if given pressure. And he won't just buckle, he'll start actively supporting stuff like an assault weapon ban or universal back ground checks, longer waiting periods, no fly list exclusions etc and he'll even get those red neck hill billy cousin ****ers that come to his rallies to agree with him that's it's needed. He has a much better chance of getting gun control passed than Hillary, if not for the fact that he's getting his ass kicked every which way in the election.
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Bull****. Trump is more likely to be held in check by establishment RINOs than Hillary. Don't be silly.
 
Dragonfly said:
Yeah...I listened to 8 friggin years of how Obama was going to destroy the 2nd Amendment, all the while watching gun sales in the USofA hit record levels every month.

Don't look now, the sky is falling, and the wolf is coming.

The gun industry and all it's supporting businesses should all be campaigning for, and voting for 4 more years of democratic rule.
They've reaped the highest profits of any business in the USofA thanks to all the FEAR people like you enjoy spreading around.
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Hitler told the Jews they were being sent to the concentration camps to keep them safe, too.

Obama said that you like your plan, you can keep your plan.

Pardon me if I don't trust those assholes.
 
Dragonfly said:
Hillary will do about as much as Obama did.

Which means we'll get 4 more years (minimum) of idiotic, fearmongering, scaremongering nonsense about how all of our guns will be banned and confiscated before the end of business today.

Run. Run. Run. They're coming for our guns. Run. Run. Run.

:roll:
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I've heard this my whole life.
 
Lutherf said:
Any EO's Hillary issues will be along the same lines as the ones Obama issued. Her court appointments will NOT be friendly to the 2A. Those are definitely reasons to vote against her.

The real problem, however, will be with the collapse of Obamacare and the institution of "Single Payer'. Once the government is paying for your healthcare doctors will be instructed to ask about firearm ownership. That will be the method to create a registry. People who lie to their doctors about firearm ownership will, at minimum, be added to the "threat" list and it's possible that the lie will be treated as a felony.

While a move like that will be lead by Democrats it will also be supported by moderate Republicans (I'm looking at you, Jeff Flake).
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There is more than one door for gun control. Do not forget all those new converts of firearm owners now supporting gun control. There is every chance of adding to already useless background checks which is on item the has huge support because once again firearm organisations have pulled up lame at the post. Anyone here can appreciate the enormity of that mistake. These new firearm owning gun control supporters are our worst nightmare. The enemy within and as it is firearm organisations have no answer for gun control or the converts within. I have seen first hand the damage they will render and how low they will go in trying to appease government. Check the firearm organisations of UK. Should you wish to oppose the idiotic laws they have firearm organisations will be the first to attack you.
 
Heller was a 5-4 decision, and Justice Scalia is no longer with us. A new Court, with one or two more justices like Kagan or Sotomayor, could eviscerate the Second Amendment simply by adopting the views Justice Stevens took in his dissenting opinion in Heller. If it did, there would no longer be any individual right to keep and bear arms. But most of the people I have seen shriek that concern about this is fearmongering by gun-hugging mouthbreathers have never read any part of Heller, and probably could not understand it if they tried. It's ironic that so many pseudo-liberals love to prattle that conservatives are stupid and ignorant.
 
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