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Suit filed to permit Californians to carry guns openly in public

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After losing a challenge to restrictions on carrying concealed firearms, gun owners in California filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday to block a state law that prevents most people from carrying guns openly in public.

The lawsuit contends that the ban on openly carrying a gun in public must be struck down now that a federal appeals court has upheld a policy that denies concealed firearm permits to most people in urban counties. The suit was filed by four Los Angeles County residents and the California Pistol and Rifle Assn.

Suit filed to permit Californians to carry guns openly in public - LA Times



It's about time.
 
MickeyW said:
After losing a challenge to restrictions on carrying concealed firearms, gun owners in California filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday to block a state law that prevents most people from carrying guns openly in public.

The lawsuit contends that the ban on openly carrying a gun in public must be struck down now that a federal appeals court has upheld a policy that denies concealed firearm permits to most people in urban counties. The suit was filed by four Los Angeles County residents and the California Pistol and Rifle Assn.

Suit filed to permit Californians to carry guns openly in public - LA Times



It's about time.
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This will likely go no where. I think many places ban open carry, and the courts will not break with that.
 
MickeyW said:
After losing a challenge to restrictions on carrying concealed firearms, gun owners in California filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday to block a state law that prevents most people from carrying guns openly in public.

The lawsuit contends that the ban on openly carrying a gun in public must be struck down now that a federal appeals court has upheld a policy that denies concealed firearm permits to most people in urban counties. The suit was filed by four Los Angeles County residents and the California Pistol and Rifle Assn.

Suit filed to permit Californians to carry guns openly in public - LA Times



It's about time.
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I enjoy how this stuff is coming from a gun control hub that liberals think is in their pockets. The fact is the country would be a great deal more united if people stopped using the state as a weapon.
 
MickeyW said:
After losing a challenge to restrictions on carrying concealed firearms, gun owners in California filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday to block a state law that prevents most people from carrying guns openly in public.

The lawsuit contends that the ban on openly carrying a gun in public must be struck down now that a federal appeals court has upheld a policy that denies concealed firearm permits to most people in urban counties. The suit was filed by four Los Angeles County residents and the California Pistol and Rifle Assn.

Suit filed to permit Californians to carry guns openly in public - LA Times

It's about time.
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They're trying to undo Ronald Reagan's legacy.

Oh, the irony.
 
Ikari said:
This will likely go no where. I think many places ban open carry, and the courts will not break with that.
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Its going to be interesting.

We are not a very rational people on this issue. I own businesses in a state were its illegal for me to carry a firearm in my pocket.. but if its out on my belt.. I am good to go. (democrat state by the way).

If I put my firearm in my car console.. so that a potential criminal won't see it and break into my car... that's illegal.

If I put the firearm out in the open on the dash... why then its legal.
 
jaeger19 said:
Its going to be interesting.

We are not a very rational people on this issue. I own businesses in a state were its illegal for me to carry a firearm in my pocket.. but if its out on my belt.. I am good to go. (democrat state by the way).

If I put my firearm in my car console.. so that a potential criminal won't see it and break into my car... that's illegal.

If I put the firearm out in the open on the dash... why then its legal.
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Because gun laws are completely fudged up everywhere. And if you carry a weapon across state lines, everything changes.

You shouldn't need the permission of government to carry a weapon concealed or open, the right is to keep and bear arms. But government loves to insert itself where it doesn't belong, and when it comes to gun laws, it's a messy quagmire of ridiculous law and punishment.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
They're trying to undo Ronald Reagan's legacy.

Oh, the irony.
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I was unaware people were bound to the views of someone that was president thirty years ago.
 
MickeyW said:
After losing a challenge to restrictions on carrying concealed firearms, gun owners in California filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday to block a state law that prevents most people from carrying guns openly in public.

The lawsuit contends that the ban on openly carrying a gun in public must be struck down now that a federal appeals court has upheld a policy that denies concealed firearm permits to most people in urban counties. The suit was filed by four Los Angeles County residents and the California Pistol and Rifle Assn.

Suit filed to permit Californians to carry guns openly in public - LA Times



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They're tilting at windmills.
So are the folks circulating petitions to put a proposition on the ballot to repeal California's gun laws.
Never going to happen.

Most California voters live in the large urban areas and have little or no experience with guns other than reading about how one more person was shot in the unending gang wars.
 
MickeyW said:
After losing a challenge to restrictions on carrying concealed firearms, gun owners in California filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday to block a state law that prevents most people from carrying guns openly in public.

The lawsuit contends that the ban on openly carrying a gun in public must be struck down now that a federal appeals court has upheld a policy that denies concealed firearm permits to most people in urban counties. The suit was filed by four Los Angeles County residents and the California Pistol and Rifle Assn.

Suit filed to permit Californians to carry guns openly in public - LA Times



It's about time.
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It may end up be more about timing - the make-up of the SCOTUS (when, not if, it gets there) will decide (or just decline to hear the case an let the lower court ruling stand. These cases take time to slog though the appeals court system and Clinton45 may get to change the SCOTUS "lean" by appointing a justice (or two?) by then.
 
Ikari said:
This will likely go no where. I think many places ban open carry, and the courts will not break with that.
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2nd Amendment says you can carry; so if they can't conceal carry, they have to give them something. You can't just infringe on a right totally by elimination like that.
 
American said:
2nd Amendment says you can carry; so if they can't conceal carry, they have to give them something. You can't just infringe on a right totally by elimination like that.
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Constitution says a lot of things...never really stopped government from doing what they want.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Indeed! The irony and hypocrisy is most bracing.
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Why? How often do you hear people go on and on about Reagan these days? I think you're thinking of twenty years ago when entirely different people made up the majority of the republican party.
 
Ikari said:
Constitution says a lot of things...never really stopped government from doing what they want.
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Since you no longer believe in the Constitution, get rid of that libertarian lable.....cause you're no longer one.
 
American said:
Since you no longer believe in the Constitution, get rid of that libertarian lable.....cause you're no longer one.
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I didn't say I didn't believe in the Constitution, Mr. Jump to Conclusions. I just gave you an accurate assessment of reality. If you don't like it, bitch to government. They're the ones who don't give a ****.
 
ocean515 said:
At the time, it seemed reasonable to deal with armed racist terrorists roaming the streets. Perhaps context from the period would assist in understanding the action that took place.
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No, it wasn't even remotely reasonable. It was purely an emotionally based action due to race issues.

Perhaps knowing history would clear that up for you.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No, it wasn't even remotely reasonable. It was purely an emotionally based action due to race issues.

Perhaps knowing history would clear that up for you.
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Source?
 
Ikari said:
I didn't say I didn't believe in the Constitution, Mr. Jump to Conclusions. I just gave you an accurate assessment of reality. If you don't like it, bitch to government. They're the ones who don't give a ****.
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Didn't say you did either. But I'll retract my comment, sorry. ;)
 
Ikari said:
Because gun laws are completely fudged up everywhere. And if you carry a weapon across state lines, everything changes.

You shouldn't need the permission of government to carry a weapon concealed or open, the right is to keep and bear arms. But government loves to insert itself where it doesn't belong, and when it comes to gun laws, it's a messy quagmire of ridiculous law and punishment.
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Totally true. Is what happens when fear and ignorance dictate policy.

Which could be said for a lot of our unnecessary laws.
 
MickeyW said:
After losing a challenge to restrictions on carrying concealed firearms, gun owners in California filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday to block a state law that prevents most people from carrying guns openly in public.

The lawsuit contends that the ban on openly carrying a gun in public must be struck down now that a federal appeals court has upheld a policy that denies concealed firearm permits to most people in urban counties. The suit was filed by four Los Angeles County residents and the California Pistol and Rifle Assn.

Suit filed to permit Californians to carry guns openly in public - LA Times



It's about time.
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dumbasses should be carrying fire extinguishers in public
 
Tanngrisnir said:
They're trying to undo Ronald Reagan's legacy.

Oh, the irony.
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What irony? It's not 1967. because one leader made a bad decision should not mean we're stuck with it forever.

besides Reagan only signed a bill the legislature had passed first.
 
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