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You can buy guns but not sex toys in this Georgia town

flogger said:
I've lived over there and you certainly have some perverse sensibilities when it comes to perceptions of sex an violence. I remember the uproar when Janet Jackson flashed a nipple at the Superbowl in 2004 ( it virtually ended her career) yet statistically two preteens would have shot either themselves or each other on that same day and that is just accepted like water off a ducks back

Go figure :(
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It is not hard for most people to figure out that like violent crime in the UK they become blasé about what is common occurrence. Janet Jackson's flash was unusual and the country has a large number of moralistic idiots just like the UK with its gun control self appointed police.

What the heck is difficult to understand? The same thing happens when gun control advocates hear about an atrocity. They go bananas, like sharks in a feeding frenzy. They kept Sandy Hook alive for a year. People in the UK committed political suicide over two shootings and gave up all freedom to suck on government's teats.

Gun control advocates are trying to whip up frenzy over anything in order to blow the wave of fear as big and far as possible.
 
flogger said:
I've lived over there and you certainly have some perverse sensibilities when it comes to perceptions of sex an violence. I remember the uproar when Janet Jackson flashed a nipple at the Superbowl in 2004 ( it virtually ended her career) yet statistically two preteens would have shot either themselves or each other on that same day and that is just accepted like water off a ducks back

Go figure :(
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it virtually ended her career :lamo

hyperbole and wrong just like all your gun posts.
 
flogger said:
Only in the US is giving your kiddies guns OK yet exposing them to the sight of someone naked is deemed unacceptable so I guess you must be right ! :)
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Why are you so obsessed with something which isn't, in any way at all, your business?
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Why am I not surprised?

A federal appeals court has upheld a ban on the sale of sex toys in Sandy Springs, Georgia — but acknowledged the decision probably won’t stand, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports.

A panel of three judges on the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta made the decision, saying they had no choice but to follow a 2004 case precedent.

But they believe that decision, a similar ban in Alabama, was wrong. They encouraged plaintiffs in the case to continue pursuing it in order to set a new precedent.

AJC reports the new take on the matter reflects the fact that last year’s Obergefell ruling legalizing same-sex marriage in all 50 states has pushed courts further away from making decisions dictating what people do in their bedrooms.

Sandy Springs passed the controversial ordinance in 2009 — which prompted MSNBC to observe that while Georgians can carry guns around almost anywhere, they can’t buy sex toys without a doctor’s note.

Per the ordinance, “device designed or marketed as useful primarily for the stimulation of human genital organs is obscene material.”

Two residents sued over the ordinance, calling it unconstitutional.
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Pity the courts don't feel that way over the 2A. Maybe citizens should make some noise of displeasure they can hear. Seems to work for everything else.
 
flogger said:
Only in the US is giving your kiddies guns OK yet exposing them to the sight of someone naked is deemed unacceptable so I guess you must be right ! :)
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As opposed to teaching them to granny bash, fight with knives, form gangs, do drugs, smuggle cigarettes, buy machine guns to keep the police out and uphold the countries abysmal record of violent crime. :roll:
 
Would it be unconstitutional if local communities made zoning laws that banned gun shops? Thats not preventing an individual to keep and bear arms. Its only affecting the selling of them.

It seems to me local communities are perfectly within their rights. They have the right to say if a buisiness can operate in their town and when it may be open pr must be closed. They can also dictate where and where not they can be geographically.

For instance we generally dont allow bars to be within a certain distance of schools and parks. We dont allow buisiness to operate in residental zones. These are all moral standards that local communities develope according to its residents values.

If people do not like the zoning laws they should go to the town council meetings and argue why they need to be changed. If enough people agree they will be changed.

Im really not seeing what is unconstitutional about this. If the courts force them to allow sex shops whats to prevent other buisiness evoking the same right and setting up shop wherever they please?

Imagine a smelly gas company decides to buy the house across the street from you in your once quaint neighborhood. Are you ok with saying yeah its a stinky eyesore and noisy but hey they have the right to do buisiness anywhere that suits them?

It just seems a bit overboard to call blue laws unconstitutional

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Hawkeye10 said:
I have no clue why anyone would want to buy their sex toys at a store. The products are overpriced, the selection is rarely good, and the sales ladies tend to be all up in your grill.
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How do you know?
 
trouble13 said:
Would it be unconstitutional if local communities made zoning laws that banned gun shops? Thats not preventing an individual to keep and bear arms. Its only affecting the selling of them.

It seems to me local communities are perfectly within their rights. They have the right to say if a buisiness can operate in their town and when it may be open pr must be closed. They can also dictate where and where not they can be geographically.

For instance we generally dont allow bars to be within a certain distance of schools and parks. We dont allow buisiness to operate in residental zones. These are all moral standards that local communities develope according to its residents values.

If people do not like the zoning laws they should go to the town council meetings and argue why they need to be changed. If enough people agree they will be changed.

Im really not seeing what is unconstitutional about this. If the courts force them to allow sex shops whats to prevent other buisiness evoking the same right and setting up shop wherever they please?

Imagine a smelly gas company decides to buy the house across the street from you in your once quaint neighborhood. Are you ok with saying yeah its a stinky eyesore and noisy but hey they have the right to do buisiness anywhere that suits them?

It just seems a bit overboard to call blue laws unconstitutional

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What activities are occurring in a gun store that could be determined to be unsavory or illicit? 120,000,000 people frequent gun stores. Men, women and children... Pretty goofy premise.
 
BretJ said:
What activities are occurring in a gun store that could be determined to be unsavory or illicit? 120,000,000 people frequent gun stores. Men, women and children... Pretty goofy premise.
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I suppose the big difference is that far fewer people outwith the US would consider frequenting a sex shop more disturbing than frequenting a gun store. But hey whatever keeps your pecker up :wink:
 
BretJ said:
What activities are occurring in a gun store that could be determined to be unsavory or illicit? 120,000,000 people frequent gun stores. Men, women and children... Pretty goofy premise.
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I cant answer that. My point is that communities are within their right to regulate how commerece is exchanged.

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trouble13 said:
I cant answer that. My point is that communities are within their right to regulate how commerece is exchanged.

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not completely. They have to have a rational reason. and there is no rational reason to ban the sale of firearms
 
flogger said:
I suppose the big difference is that far fewer people outwith the US would consider frequenting a sex shop more disturbing than frequenting a gun store. But hey whatever keeps your pecker up :wink:
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I don't see a problem with either. Meh.
 
BretJ said:
To a certain extent until civil liberties are involved. Would love to see a municipality try and shut down a gay bar. FYI, San Fransisco was recently told by the courts to can this kind of crap...
Local Gun Store Owners Win Major Court Victory « CBS San Francisco
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Point taken about civil liberty violations. I would object to closing down just gay bars bar I would not object if they closed all bars. In a sense isn't that what last call is. We restrict alcohol sales in the early morning hours.

I personally don't think the courts got it right with the gun shop but it's debatable because it is in our bill of rights. I don't think restricting where guns are sold reaches the level of infringement. Jmo


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MickeyW said:
My take is that person who buys a gun is a lot smarter than one who buys a sex toy.
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Both have their uses - I believe the chant goes something like "one is for fighting and one is for fun..."

Anyways, one's intelligence is not reflected by the stuff they choose to buy. I know plenty of incompetent fools who own guns here in the south, and plenty of damn intelligent people who own guns as well.
 
TurtleDude said:
I have read the bill of rights hundreds of times and I never saw this amendment

The right to lubricate and insert dildos shall not be infringed.
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That's because you have to hold your breath and stand upside down while wearing green-tinted goggles to read the secret bonus rights listed on the back; also, it only works with the original Bill of Rights.
 
Henrin said:
Where are sex toys protected by constitutional amendment?
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I refer you to amendments nine and 10:

Amendment 9.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment 10.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Why am I not surprised?

A federal appeals court has upheld a ban on the sale of sex toys in Sandy Springs, Georgia — but acknowledged the decision probably won’t stand, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports.

A panel of three judges on the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta made the decision, saying they had no choice but to follow a 2004 case precedent.

But they believe that decision, a similar ban in Alabama, was wrong. They encouraged plaintiffs in the case to continue pursuing it in order to set a new precedent.

AJC reports the new take on the matter reflects the fact that last year’s Obergefell ruling legalizing same-sex marriage in all 50 states has pushed courts further away from making decisions dictating what people do in their bedrooms.

Sandy Springs passed the controversial ordinance in 2009 — which prompted MSNBC to observe that while Georgians can carry guns around almost anywhere, they can’t buy sex toys without a doctor’s note.

Per the ordinance, “device designed or marketed as useful primarily for the stimulation of human genital organs is obscene material.”

Two residents sued over the ordinance, calling it unconstitutional.
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I am sure others have pointed this out but buying guns is a constitutional right.Nowhere in the bill of rights is there a right to buy sex toys.
 
jamesrage said:
I am sure others have pointed this out but buying guns is a constitutional right.Nowhere in the bill of rights is there a right to buy sex toys.
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Maybe there should be an Amendment.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Why am I not surprised?

A federal appeals court has upheld a ban on the sale of sex toys in Sandy Springs, Georgia — but acknowledged the decision probably won’t stand, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports.

A panel of three judges on the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta made the decision, saying they had no choice but to follow a 2004 case precedent.

But they believe that decision, a similar ban in Alabama, was wrong. They encouraged plaintiffs in the case to continue pursuing it in order to set a new precedent.

AJC reports the new take on the matter reflects the fact that last year’s Obergefell ruling legalizing same-sex marriage in all 50 states has pushed courts further away from making decisions dictating what people do in their bedrooms.

Sandy Springs passed the controversial ordinance in 2009 — which prompted MSNBC to observe that while Georgians can carry guns around almost anywhere, they can’t buy sex toys without a doctor’s note.

Per the ordinance, “device designed or marketed as useful primarily for the stimulation of human genital organs is obscene material.”

Two residents sued over the ordinance, calling it unconstitutional.
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Well, I guess they're SOL if they find themselves needing a good guy with a dildo
 
Mr Person said:
Well, I guess they're SOL if they find themselves needing a good guy with a dildo
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If there is a good guy, no dildo is needed.


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