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Defensive shootings

You're avoid reality again.

Huh! You really scratching in the nether regions now. I just said more than a million citizens do. That is reality with a capital R.
 
If you are willing to risk your well being and are a skilled mall ninja such as Jet, no, you don't need a gun. Still as goofy as the first time you said it. According to him however, women and elderly, should simply be compliant victims and accept their lot in life as the weakest links.
Bet I can guess which one Jet prefers...
personally, I prefer the one on the right.

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Ditto.

There are probably cases where someone was told he needed surgery to survive say lung cancer or a bad heart valve and the patient instead turned to faith healing and managed to survive. And there is at least one case of a military aviator who jumped out of a bomber in WWII, more than a mile above ground, without a parachute, who survived (his plane was on fire, he couldn't get to his chute and he figured burning alive was the worst option so he jumped at 10,000 feet IIRC). and using Jet's logic, you don't need surgery if you have cancer and you don't need a parachute to jump out of a plane.


Apparently, Jet is afraid of firearms and worries more about shooting himself or in error. Hey, I get that, some folks aren't physically or mentally equipped to fight.

All the martial arts guys that I have trained with, carry a gun in their gym bag....for obvious reasons.

Just FYI...

Thanks Maggie, I didn't know that.

The scene as filmed, had a much greater impact to me. I don't do sword fights or whips and using a gun is as natural to me as brushing my teeth.
 
But it is extremely advisable to have one as proven by 23 surveys. You could also choose to be a statistic.

:lol:

Point is - ya' don't need one.

Point is....you don't always need one! But when you do, there is nothing else that compares.

Some people are just plain lucky....and some are just plain stupid.
 
But it is extremely advisable to have one as proven by 23 surveys. You could also choose to be a statistic.

No that is not correct. The point is some lucky person may not need one. Statistically you have a far better chance if you have one. 23 Surveys agree on that unanimously.

and Jet will argue ad nauseam
 
Since I assume you mean "every" to mean at least one I'm gonna say statistically speaking putting your life on the line because you cannot read survey data or statistics and have a great fairy godmother might be pushing your luck. Most sensible people have a fire extinguisher for the same reason. Unfortunately there are people who insist on becoming Darwin award winners when it comes to taking unnecessary risk.

Ain't that the truth!
 
Point is Bret, YOU guys are making a blanket statement knowing full well it's not true for every case. That's the point Bret: you don't need a gun.
Who has said you need one in every circumstance?? I certainly would disagree with that. Do you agree having one in other circumstances is preferable?
 
The point is, people who don't need a gun have no problem defending themselves.

Here's an unarmed woman doing the same thing.



In most cases....this in NOT the case. Most people can't defend themselves at all or very little, thus the empircal evidence from police reports worldwide of victims of assault.
Jet....you are cherry picking, nothing more!

Yeah it always works out in the movies just the way you want it.

No, it doesn't always....but in that case, it worked as it has in real life. That's why I loved that scene...it depicted real life, not the phony Hollywood crap that we usually see. The phony scenarios in the movies....normally cater to your type of mindset.

You're avoid reality again.

No...you do. The reality is that what you post is rare and the victims get seriously injured or killed by the perp. Happens daily.

This woman survived mainly because the young punk was inexperienced and thought his bluff was all that was needed. He was wrong.

She could have easily been shot and an experienced robber wouldn't have hesitated, and she would have been, after engaging the perp.
 
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The point is, people who don't need a gun have no problem defending themselves.

Here's an unarmed woman doing the same thing.

Not only anecdotal but cherry picked as well, then to top it all argument by extension of one single cherry picked piece of anecdotal evidence.

I think you have outdone yourself. Congratulations nothing could be more false.
 
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