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My Gun Control Plan [W:1271]

Careful, don't let people think you are prejudice against black guns, that R word will get dropped.

Then maybe a black gun is a politically correct gun.
 
Then maybe a black gun is a politically correct gun.

Hmmmm, you might be on to something there, maybe all non-black guns should be banned, that will make the difference, right?
 
LMAO. thanks for that I needed a good laugh today. I must say for your first post on DP this is a whopper. [emoji23]



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Hey now, he is against Heavy AR's, since most AR 15's are very light then they should be fine, not sure about my M1A Scout, it does weigh more than any of the AR 15's or the Mini 14. Maybe they should define Heavy.
 
So you calling an AR15 a "heavy assault rifle"... Would my Beretta 9mm fall under that same category? Why or why not?



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Man.

I mean, I don't really lift on the regular any more since I got out of the Corps, but, you have to really have degenerated muscle fiber to think the AR-15 is heavy.

Or, I suppose, be an 8 year old child.
 
So you calling an AR15 a "heavy assault rifle"... Would my Beretta 9mm fall under that same category? Why or why not?



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No, it is light weight, do learn more about your AR's.
 
Man.

I mean, I don't really lift on the regular any more since I got out of the Corps, but, you have to really have degenerated muscle fiber to think the AR-15 is heavy.

Or, I suppose, be an 8 year old child.
Never know man. He might be one of those child soldiers all hopped up on khat. Those little ****s can lift a pinto. Semper Fi.

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My Gun Control Plan

33,000 people die every year because of gun violence. It's easier to get a gun than it is a car. Ar-15's are being sold at Walmart. Something needs to be done this is my plan

1. Close the gun show loophole
there's no reason that just because weapons are being sold at a gun show that background checks shouldn't be required. This seems like common sense at this point.

2. Impose stricter background checks
People on the terror watch list shouldn't be able to purchase firearms. People with a history of mental health issues shouldn't be allowed to purchase firearms. It should be much more difficult to get a permit to purchase and carry a firearm from where I can obtain a permit in 22 states online.

3. Ban heavy assault weapons
This is my largest point. The only weapons that should be legal to own are 1. Handguns with a magazine capacity of 10 or less 2. That can hold 6 shells or less 3. single shot hunting riffles. There is no reason a private citizen needs an AR-15 heavy assault weapons are used for one purpose and one purpose only to kill and to kill efficiently they have no place in domestic America.

Those are my 3 main points for my gun control plans.
Your thoughts?

So I remember when I started learning about gun Control in politics and the difference and legislation passed to be federal law versus the laws they leave up to the states. And you seem to be new like I was apparently. The suggestions you pose are good. but will never be agreed on in the current political landscape. we have and an amendment so poorly written as the Second Amendment.

So I'm going to share with you some of my favorite things that help me come to understanding of this mess we have in our country so full of guns there's not many options.

How to Think About Guns: A New Freakonomics Radio Podcast - Freakonomics Freakonomics

Banning assault weapons won't solve America's gun problem - Vox

Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence - Annual Gun Law State Scorecard 2015


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No, it is light weight, do learn more about your AR's.
I really don't see the need to...I mean I do all the right things, feed it, oil it, made it a nice bed. I dunno if I pester it too much with questions it might get pissed off, rebel, and run away from home to go shoot up a mall or something.

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I really don't see the need to...I mean I do all the right things, feed it, oil it, made it a nice bed. I dunno if I pester it too much with questions it might get pissed off, rebel, and run away from home to go shoot up a mall or something.

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Ok, you are doing the right thing, make a gun mad and they simply go off and do bad things. It is why so many lock them up, especially at night, I caught one of mine trying to sneak out the back door the other day, not sure the time out had the desired effect, going to have to keep an eye on that one for a while.
 
33,000 people die every year because of gun violence. It's easier to get a gun than it is a car. Ar-15's are being sold at Walmart. Something needs to be done this is my plan

1. Close the gun show loophole
there's no reason that just because weapons are being sold at a gun show that background checks shouldn't be required. This seems like common sense at this point.

2. Impose stricter background checks
People on the terror watch list shouldn't be able to purchase firearms. People with a history of mental health issues shouldn't be allowed to purchase firearms. It should be much more difficult to get a permit to purchase and carry a firearm from where I can obtain a permit in 22 states online.

3. Ban heavy assault weapons
This is my largest point. The only weapons that should be legal to own are 1. Handguns with a magazine capacity of 10 or less 2. That can hold 6 shells or less 3. single shot hunting riffles. There is no reason a private citizen needs an AR-15 heavy assault weapons are used for one purpose and one purpose only to kill and to kill efficiently they have no place in domestic America.

Those are my 3 main points for my gun control plans.
Your thoughts?

So......you worked hard to craft the most ridiculous post possible about gun control and now you have a lot of responses telling you how ridiculous your post was.

Mission accomplished. (Yawn.)

:)
 
33,000 people die every year because of gun violence. It's easier to get a gun than it is a car. Ar-15's are being sold at Walmart. Something needs to be done this is my plan

1. Close the gun show loophole
there's no reason that just because weapons are being sold at a gun show that background checks shouldn't be required. This seems like common sense at this point.

2. Impose stricter background checks
People on the terror watch list shouldn't be able to purchase firearms. People with a history of mental health issues shouldn't be allowed to purchase firearms. It should be much more difficult to get a permit to purchase and carry a firearm from where I can obtain a permit in 22 states online.

3. Ban heavy assault weapons
This is my largest point. The only weapons that should be legal to own are 1. Handguns with a magazine capacity of 10 or less 2. That can hold 6 shells or less 3. single shot hunting riffles. There is no reason a private citizen needs an AR-15 heavy assault weapons are used for one purpose and one purpose only to kill and to kill efficiently they have no place in domestic America.

Those are my 3 main points for my gun control plans.
Your thoughts?

It sounds like what your saying is you want ban legal gun ownership but short of that you want heavily regulate it to get to close to that as you get away with and you made this thread to float your ideas. I disagree with you on about this on many levels but that what living in a free ciuntry means. We have the right to peacefully disagree with each other.

1. Gunshow loophole is a bit misleading. You cant buy a gun from a dealer without getting a background check. Its private sales that are not being checked. Strawman buyer stuff. I think i have an easier solution to this.

Instead of background checking each sale why not require anyone who wants a gun must apply for a license to own one. Just like a dtivers permit but its a gun ownership permit. Make it illegal to sell a gun to anyone who dont have one.

Imo thats a reasonabke and practical compeomise between bith sides. Its easy enough to take a picture of the license and keep it in your records as opposed to telling private citicizens they need to get a background check run on whiever they might sell one to.

If you get in trouble you get your license suspended or revoked depending on the circumstances.

The devil is in the details on the criteria developed to disqualify a citicizen fir a gun but i think a reasonable standard can be found that both sides could live with.

Gun owners should be happy with this because it eliminates them from feeling like a file is being kept in them simply because they own a gun.

It eases the burden on the government they could perform thebtask from any permitting licensing burea, even motor vehicle offices.

Gun control people get the oversight they want.

2. Im not into stricter background checks per se but im all for a comprehensive check of the person without violating their rights.

The terror list thing is a double edged sword because itsba secret list that would no longer be a secret. If you wanted to find out if your on it all you would need to do is try to purchase a gun. Im really on the fence with this issue.

Im opposed to outlawing all guns except handguns and limiting magazine sizes. Im not opposed to taking my license idea a step further by making sifferent class license that dustinguish which weapons your certified to use and which ones your not. Again the devil is in the details to determining that.

I think there is room for readonable compromise in this debate if your goal isnt to ban all guns or to have unrestricted acess to all of them.

Fact is if we have guns people are going to get shot. You either need to accept that as a price of living in a free society or sacrafice that freedom by getting them banned. My vite is for freedom.

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Hey now, he is against Heavy AR's, since most AR 15's are very light then they should be fine, not sure about my M1A Scout, it does weigh more than any of the AR 15's or the Mini 14. Maybe they should define Heavy.

Maybe it is that huge round it fires. That thing is bigger than a 22. I understand it can knock down a 1000lb polar bear at 1/2 mile.
 
33,000 people die every year because of gun violence. It's easier to get a gun than it is a car. Ar-15's are being sold at Walmart. Something needs to be done this is my plan

1. Close the gun show loophole
there's no reason that just because weapons are being sold at a gun show that background checks shouldn't be required. This seems like common sense at this point.

Oddly background checks are required when you buy a gun from a dealer whether at his store or at a gun show. Private sales or gifts between individuals are not regulated by government whether they are done at gun shows or somewhere else. What you want then is not a gun show loophole. You want people to undergo a background check when they choose to sell their gun to someone or make a gift of it. Two issues. The first is that it is not enforceable. The second is that it won't anything about gun violence. People who want to engage in gun violence would normally acquire firearms on the black market.

2. Impose stricter background checks
People on the terror watch list shouldn't be able to purchase firearms. People with a history of mental health issues shouldn't be allowed to purchase firearms. It should be much more difficult to get a permit to purchase and carry a firearm from where I can obtain a permit in 22 states online.

You don't need a law for that. The current background checks are done by the ATF. They can do as much or as little checking as they wish. You just need to ask them to do more. Current law bans people with mental health issues from purchasing firearms already. Finally you want to put impediments in the way of a constitutional right which would only affect law abiding gun owners. It simply won't change anything.

3. Ban heavy assault weapons
This is my largest point. The only weapons that should be legal to own are 1. Handguns with a magazine capacity of 10 or less 2. That can hold 6 shells or less 3. single shot hunting riffles. There is no reason a private citizen needs an AR-15 heavy assault weapons are used for one purpose and one purpose only to kill and to kill efficiently they have no place in domestic America.

AR 15's are used in shooting competitions. They are used for killing varmints on farms. Some people hunt with them. Others collect them. Apparently what you really want is to ban all semi automatic rifles. What about semi automatic handguns or cars with automatic transmissions. You are going after the tool rather than the people who misuse the tool. It won't stop people from killing one another. They have been killing each other since the dawn of man.

Those are my 3 main points for my gun control plans.
Your thoughts?

You can find them above.
 
Maybe it is that huge round it fires. That thing is bigger than a 22. I understand it can knock down a 1000lb polar bear at 1/2 mile.

True, even though my mags will hold 20, 30 or even 40 rounds I can only load 2 or 3 rounds because of the weight. Still not as bad as my .308, anything more than one round and the rifle becomes far too heavy to even lift to the shoulder, have use a prone position and then you end up laying in a fire ant mound, ow!
 
I don't think people OR guns should be controlled. However, I do think people should be held accountable for their actions.

So something else should be controlled when guns are objects sold in Walmart.
 
So something else should be controlled when guns are objects sold in Walmart.

What else does Walmart sell that you think should be controlled? Hammers? Hunting knives? Oh...how about BB guns?

Like I said...make "people" accountable for their actions...whether they act with hammers, hunting knives, BB guns or a 12 gauge shotgun.
 
What else does Walmart sell that you think should be controlled? Hammers? Hunting knives? Oh...how about BB guns?

Like I said...make "people" accountable for their actions...whether they act with hammers, hunting knives, BB guns or a 12 gauge shotgun.

as long as they are held accountable they may buy it like they buy a kilo of tomato ?:shock:
 
It sounds like what your saying is you want ban legal gun ownership but short of that you want heavily regulate it to get to close to that as you get away with and you made this thread to float your ideas. I disagree with you on about this on many levels but that what living in a free ciuntry means. We have the right to peacefully disagree with each other.

1. Gunshow loophole is a bit misleading. You cant buy a gun from a dealer without getting a background check. Its private sales that are not being checked. Strawman buyer stuff. I think i have an easier solution to this.

Instead of background checking each sale why not require anyone who wants a gun must apply for a license to own one. Just like a dtivers permit but its a gun ownership permit. Make it illegal to sell a gun to anyone who dont have one.

Imo thats a reasonabke and practical compeomise between bith sides. Its easy enough to take a picture of the license and keep it in your records as opposed to telling private citicizens they need to get a background check run on whiever they might sell one to.

If you get in trouble you get your license suspended or revoked depending on the circumstances.

The devil is in the details on the criteria developed to disqualify a citicizen fir a gun but i think a reasonable standard can be found that both sides could live with.

Gun owners should be happy with this because it eliminates them from feeling like a file is being kept in them simply because they own a gun.

It eases the burden on the government they could perform thebtask from any permitting licensing burea, even motor vehicle offices.

Gun control people get the oversight they want.

2. Im not into stricter background checks per se but im all for a comprehensive check of the person without violating their rights.

The terror list thing is a double edged sword because itsba secret list that would no longer be a secret. If you wanted to find out if your on it all you would need to do is try to purchase a gun. Im really on the fence with this issue.

Im opposed to outlawing all guns except handguns and limiting magazine sizes. Im not opposed to taking my license idea a step further by making sifferent class license that dustinguish which weapons your certified to use and which ones your not. Again the devil is in the details to determining that.

I think there is room for readonable compromise in this debate if your goal isnt to ban all guns or to have unrestricted acess to all of them.

Fact is if we have guns people are going to get shot. You either need to accept that as a price of living in a free society or sacrafice that freedom by getting them banned. My vite is for freedom.

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The only way any of your "compromises" will be constitutional is if we repeal the 2nd Amendment. Until you can accomplish that, anything you might think is a good compromise is nothing more than infringement.
 
The only way any of your "compromises" will be constitutional is if we repeal the 2nd Amendment. Until you can accomplish that, anything you might think is a good compromise is nothing more than infringement.

Do you believe any restriction put on guns violates the 2nd?


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Hey now, he is against Heavy AR's, since most AR 15's are very light then they should be fine, not sure about my M1A Scout, it does weigh more than any of the AR 15's or the Mini 14. Maybe they should define Heavy.

Black, obese firearms...the worst kind.

LOL!!
 
Just to clarify, Walmart does sell one type, The Ruger Mini 14, they just stopped selling the evil looking Black Guns.

Yep, they said sales weren't up to par....what a crock!

Haven't we seen this line of logic before? Like a hundred or so times.
Hint: This isn't your plan. We hear the same plan a couple of times a day. The President reads it off the teleprompter a couple of times a month.

Exactly. Who is that posting under a different name?
 
33,000 people die every year because of gun violence. It's easier to get a gun than it is a car. Ar-15's are being sold at Walmart. Something needs to be done this is my plan

1. Close the gun show loophole
there's no reason that just because weapons are being sold at a gun show that background checks shouldn't be required. This seems like common sense at this point.

2. Impose stricter background checks
People on the terror watch list shouldn't be able to purchase firearms. People with a history of mental health issues shouldn't be allowed to purchase firearms. It should be much more difficult to get a permit to purchase and carry a firearm from where I can obtain a permit in 22 states online.

3. Ban heavy assault weapons
This is my largest point. The only weapons that should be legal to own are 1. Handguns with a magazine capacity of 10 or less 2. That can hold 6 shells or less 3. single shot hunting riffles. There is no reason a private citizen needs an AR-15 heavy assault weapons are used for one purpose and one purpose only to kill and to kill efficiently they have no place in domestic America.

Those are my 3 main points for my gun control plans.
Your thoughts?

I think you're right on the money, and welcome to DP by the way: :2wave:

I am a staunch second amendment supporter, AND gun owner, but I also know social problems when I see them and this rabid gun culture that has invaded our political system has created more of a mess than they even realize. Your suggestions are not new, but they would be a great start to buckling up and having the nerve to do something about the problem with mass shootings and proliferation of combat weaponry that gets into the hands of gangs in this country.

Just recently, and local drug and gun bust took place and look what was found:

Antioch bust.jpg

And there it all is. And that's just ONE! You can read about it here: Detectives Find Stash Of Drugs, Guns, Cash During Antioch House Search « CBS San Francisco

Thanks for posting your suggestions.
 
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