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Republicans Won't Have Guns at their Own Convention?

jet57 said:
The problem is, it won't be allowed at Trump's convention, and none of the right-wing thinks that's a problem.
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So now the RNC is Trumps Convention? How does that work?
 
mak2 said:
I certainly agree, but I never carry in a bar when I am going to be drinking, even a beer with lunch. Comeon man, Trump says you should be able to carry in a huge nightclub while drinking, yet the Republican Convention is going to be a no gun zone. Cant you at least admit there is a bit of hypocrisy there?
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I certainly do not remember Trump Advocating drinking and carrying, link?
 
jet57 said:
The problem is, it won't be allowed at Trump's convention, and none of the right-wing thinks that's a problem.
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Unlike liberals the RNC doesn't believe the government should dictate what rights private organizations have. Apparently you think the RNC should violate private property rights to prove they are not hypocrites on gun rights?
 
Yea, ok. The Repubs are all about guns every where all the time. Besides the Republican convention where else does the Repubs approve of banning guns? Schools? well no, not schools...
Aberration said:
Is Trump the one setting up the policy for the Convention? From what I see, there are a whole lot of things banned. Last time I checked they removed protesters from the rallies. They would from the RNC too. VIOLATION OF THE 1ST AMENDMENT!!!!
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MACS-24 said:
:lol: You got me there. I forgot about USPS. I do not like that one either but hey it's going to be very hard to come up with probable cause to search my vehicle for a gun.

For the military, The best trained people in the world should be allowed to carry on base. So, my excluding military for right wing complaining about gov't places. Think court, prison, Fed buildings, etc.
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I can almost understand court and prison. I can't understand any other Federal building, that seems to be an obvious and unnecessary infringement. I guess they can make the case they reasonable fear the people they screw over daily.
 
It was the secrete service that banned the guns (not private, yet). The convention could tell them to take a leap.
blaxshep said:
Unlike liberals the RNC doesn't believe the government should dictate what rights private organizations have. Apparently you think the RNC should violate private property rights to prove they are not hypocrites on gun rights?
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jet57 said:
So, you don't know what you're talking about: the venue rents out the property for the event - even a gun show, like at the Cow Palace or any number of stadiums or halls. The producers of the show decide what will be allowed - within the law.

"Big Gummit" told the NRA subsidiary - the Republican Party - "no guns", and the NRA AND the Republicans are eating their words.
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Um, no. The owners of the venue ultimately have the final say. Do you know for a fact that is not their policy?
 
mak2 said:
It was the secrete service that banned the guns (not private, yet). The convention could tell them to take a leap.
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No, they can't. No more than I can tell the SS to take a leap if I came armed in the presence of a protected person.
 
If the Repubs stuck to their convictions they would insist. But hey, I would probably consider myself a Republican if it wasn't for the hypocrisy and stupidity, which brought up Trump.
Aberration said:
There isn't. That still doesn't make it HIS convention under his control to set the policy.
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blaxshep said:
Unlike liberals the RNC doesn't believe the government should dictate what rights private organizations have. Apparently you think the RNC should violate private property rights to prove they are not hypocrites on gun rights?
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Well the RNC is being dictated to now isn't it. And by Big Gummit yet! If the RNC was worth its salt on the second amendment, everybody attending would be packin heat. What a great showcase for the second amendment and the gun rights of law abiding citizens.

But that really doesn't mean anything does it.
 
mak2 said:
Yea, ok. The Repubs are all about guns every where all the time. Besides the Republican convention where else does the Repubs approve of banning guns? Schools? well no, not schools...
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What Jet refuses to see is this is a Secret Service issue and I am sure it would apply to the democrats too (wait Obama + SS, it's an Obama trick trying to make RNC look bad :) )
 
The Republican Convention can refuse Govt protection, I would think they would prefer to have private security anyway, you know how they feel about the government and all.
Aberration said:
No, they can't. No more than I can tell the SS to take a leap if I came armed in the presence of a protected person.
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countryboy said:
Um, no. The owners of the venue ultimately have the final say. Do you know for a fact that is not their policy?
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That's partially true. In this case the Secret Service has the final say.
 
Yea I think all responsible adults should be allowed to carry nearly all the time too, I just hate the hypocrisy.
MACS-24 said:
What Jet refuses to see is this is a Secret Service issue and I am sure it would apply to the democrats too (wait Obama + SS, it's an Obama trick trying to make RNC look bad :) )
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Aberration said:
No, they can't. No more than I can tell the SS to take a leap if I came armed in the presence of a protected person.
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The convention is designated as a National Special Security Event, meaning that ultimate authority over law enforcement goes to the Secret Service and Department of Homeland Security

From President Clinton

"A National Special Security Event (NSSE) is an event of national or international significance deemed by the United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to be a potential target for terrorism or other criminal activity. These events have included summits of world leaders, meetings of international organizations, presidential nominating conventions and presidential inaugurations. NSSE designation requires federal agencies to provide full cooperation and support to ensure the safety and security of those participating in or otherwise attending the event, and the community within which the event takes place, and is typically limited to specific event sites for a specified time frame. An NSSE puts the United States Secret Service in charge of event security, the Federal Bureau of Investigation in charge of intelligence, counter terrorism, hostage rescue and investigation of incidents of terrorism or other major criminal activities associated with the NSSE, and the Federal Emergency Management Agency in charge of recovery management in the aftermath of terrorist or other major criminal incidents, natural disasters or other catastrophic events. NSSE designation is not a funding mechanism, and currently there is no specific federal "pot of money" to be distributed to state and local governments within whose jurisdiction NSSEs take place."

all wiki
 
Thanks for the info, I think they should still be worried about being a soft target. :2wave:
 
mak2 said:
Yea, ok. The Repubs are all about guns every where all the time. Besides the Republican convention where else does the Repubs approve of banning guns? Schools? well no, not schools...
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Are they? Last time I checked there were plenty of Repubs, like LaPierre, who have voiced opinions that guns shouldn't be everywhere all the time. The problem is you are projecting the opinions of some Repubs upon the entire party. As if we haven't been having a civil war over some of our core beliefs and the actually effort Repub politicians make to stand up for them.

Personally I am not for banning guns anywhere. But then again I am not a registered Republican.
 
mak2 said:
Thanks for the info, I think they should still be worried about being a soft target. :2wave:
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Me too. I need to add to my original post to edit that it started with Clinton and modified further once or twice by others.
 
jet57 said:
So there was no question then.

Okay.
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You certainly know which question, the question I posed in my first post on this thread that somehow you thought was a dodge LMAS. Here let me help you
MACS-24 said:
Simple question Jet... Is Quicken Loans Arena a Private or Public building?
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Point one would have followed as the "right wing" supports private property rights.
Point two would have been your rant falls flat on its face, this is controlled by the S.S. as listed in 18 U.S.C. § 3056
 
Aberration said:
Maybe in your State. Its allowed in mine. And its never been a problem.
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Come on, can't I add a little levity to this thread?

Everybody knows when people go to a convention in another city they have a tendency to act differently. For one you are not bound to run into co-worker or neighbor. You spouse may be back at home. So you have a few drinks to get that buzz so you can enjoy the celebration more.
 
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