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The Assault Rifle Does it Again[W:265, 507]

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The OP article is obviously using ignorance or lies, no one knows but the author.
How many times does it take to point out the fact that AR-15s are not military style assault rifles?
In fact, I don't know of any countries where their military uses an Ar-15 style semi-automatic, it's a complete fabrication!

If there is going to be a debate on so called "assault weapons" which by the way is a term conjured up by politicians to deceive and confuse the public into thinking they are military style weapons, then lets start by getting the facts to the forefront.
 
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justlikethat said:
The OP article is obviously using ignorance or lies, no one knows but the author.
How many times does it take to point out the fact that AR-15s are not military style assault rifles?
In fact, I don't know of any countries where their military uses an Ar-15 style semi-automatic, it's a complete fabrication!

If there is going to be a debate on so called "assault weapons" which by the way is a term conjured up by politicians to deceive and confuse the public into thinking they are military style weapons, then lets start by getting the facts to the forefront.
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The AR-15 was designed for military use and marketed to the United States military until Colt bought the design in the 1960s and started selling it to civilians while selling a modified version, the M16, to the military.
 
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Texmex said:
Sorry for your ignorance, but if you don't see the difference, you need to spend your time back in school.
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So only rich people deserve the best protection they can afford? Got it.
 
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blackjack50 said:
So only rich people deserve the best protection they can afford? Got it.
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Well, they drive the best cars, wear the best cloths and live in the best houses.
 
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Napoleon said:
The AR-15 was designed for military use and marketed to the United States military until Colt bought the design in the 1960s and started selling it to civilians while selling a modified version, the M16, to the military.
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Your info is totally inaccurate.
The military has never used a semi-auto rifle for combat forces, never.

Like most people who are uninformed on guns, you get "assault weapon" and assault rifle confused.
President Reagan banned assault rifles (fully automatic rifles) in 1986.

The guns so many liberals want banned like AR-15s are not assault rifles, only one shot per trigger pull can be achieved by an AR-15, that my friend is no faster or deadlier than a hunting rifle, a fact you cannot refute!
 
Texmex said:
Well, they drive the best cars, wear the best cloths and live in the best houses.
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And are infrequently the victims of violence.

Are you saying being rich means your life is more valuable to society? I don't think that jives with our legal system.
 
blackjack50 said:
And are infrequently the victims of violence.

Are you saying being rich means your life is more valuable to society? I don't think that jives with our legal system.
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If you want to know what I am saying, read what I posted.
 
Texmex said:
If you want to know what I am saying, read what I posted.
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Well it seems like you need to clarify. Are you suggesting that a rich person's life is more valuable than a poor person's life. you seem hesitant to answer that? But given the evidence you seem to think it is somehow different that a rich person has armed security, but I slowly poor people are not allowed to have it?

This is typical of the liberal mentality. Liberal gods can have their arm security and be protected from everyone. They are accountable to the same laws as everybody else. They claim that there is a quality but only equality for anyone other than the gods themselves. There $15,000 Armani suits and fully equipped and armed personal security teams with extensive military and police training.
 
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justlikethat said:
Your info is totally inaccurate.
The military has never used a semi-auto rifle for combat forces, never.

Like most people who are uninformed on guns, you get "assault weapon" and assault rifle confused.
President Reagan banned assault rifles (fully automatic rifles) in 1986.

The guns so many liberals want banned like AR-15s are not assault rifles, only one shot per trigger pull can be achieved by an AR-15, that my friend is no faster or deadlier than a hunting rifle, a fact you cannot refute!
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What I said is entirely accurate. The AR-15 was not originally intended for civilians and was not available to civilians until Colt bought the design from ArmaLite. The AR-15 was purchased and used by the military as a replacement for the M-14, but was later replaced by the M-16 with AR-15 being marketed to civilians afterwards.
 
Napoleon said:
What I said is entirely accurate. The AR-15 was not originally intended for civilians and was not available to civilians until Colt bought the design from ArmaLite. The AR-15 was purchased and used by the military as a replacement for the M-14, but was later replaced by the M-16.
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Neither were firearms in general. Or swords.
 
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Napoleon said:
What I said is entirely accurate. The AR-15 was not originally intended for civilians and was not available to civilians until Colt bought the design from ArmaLite. The AR-15 was purchased and used by the military as a replacement for the M-14, but was later replaced by the M-16 with AR-15 being marketed to civilians afterwards.
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Again, totally inaccurate!
The original Colt AR-15 designed for the military was a select fire automatic rifle!
The military renamed the AR-15 the M-16 for military use.

AR-15 is a trademark name by Colt, it was never introduced to civilians as an automatic rifle.
So the facts do not support your narrative that the AR-15 is a military rifle or the weapons used in some mass shootings, it's just simply not true.

With that said:
Will you agree that the so called "assault weapon" AR-15 is nothing more than a single shot per trigger pull rifle, just like a semi-automatic hunting rifle?

Will you also admit it is NOT an assault rifle like those used in the military?
 
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Napoleon said:
What I said is entirely accurate. The AR-15 was not originally intended for civilians and was not available to civilians until Colt bought the design from ArmaLite. The AR-15 was purchased and used by the military as a replacement for the M-14, but was later replaced by the M-16 with AR-15 being marketed to civilians afterwards.
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No. Not accurate. The military has never used the AR-15.

Regardless, it wouldn't matter if it was. The 2A Amendment is meant to protect the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Not arms you think are intended for civilians. But quite clearly, based on the words of the people who wrote it themselves, they intended arms equal to that of the government they may need to resist.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
No offense, but That is all I will say, thank you. Those details belong in my distant memories, where they belong. I have no desire to dredge up all the issues talking about that phase of my life would entail.

Now my life is all about using my table saw, my bread machine, going to festivals, and taking care of my wife and my beloved cats.

We just had a new one show up two weeks ago from the wild. I am trying to let him know this human is not going to hurt him.

In fact today is the start of our local Tomato Festival.

This is my life now, and I hope it stays this way.
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You post in an open forum that you where issued a particular weapon while you worked for a "contracting" firm and then went on to deflect saying it was an "overseas" outfit that is classified or something. Now someone with a bit of knowledge asks you a bit more and you deflect even more. No one is asking you to devulge any "classified" information about you, who, or where. Telling us the name of the overseas company and where they tasked you to "operate" is all anybody is asking. Starting to think you might nene agora ting a bit there buddy. Will all due respect, I am Not saying you are totally full of it or anything, but this sort of "I could tell you, but I would have to kill you" response is a little unbelievable Sir. Please prove me wrong.
RetiredNSmilin said:
no punji sticks, but in Kosovo they had a habit of pulling the pin on a grenade, sticking it in a jar so the lever was still held down, and then putting it over a doorknob or someplace, so when you opened the door, or did whatever action was needed, the jar would drop and break, therefore releasing the lever, and 3 to ? seconds later...BOOM!

We learned when we heard glass breaking, to jump and flop.

out of respect, can we not talk about this stuff anymore, please?
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...so now you are saying you were working for said "contracting" company, carrying a FAL rifle, and dodging hand grenade traps in Kosovo? Or are you saying this was during your navy service? This is getting quite intriguing. I have two very close friends that served in Kosovo BTW. Starting to doubt these credentials a little bit more now.
 
chungmee85 said:
You post in an open forum that you where issued a particular weapon while you worked for a "contracting" firm and then went on to deflect saying it was an "overseas" outfit that is classified or something. Now someone with a bit of knowledge asks you a bit more and you deflect even more. No one is asking you to devulge any "classified" information about you, who, or where. Telling us the name of the overseas company and where they tasked you to "operate" is all anybody is asking. Starting to think you might nene agora ting a bit there buddy. Will all due respect, I am Not saying you are totally full of it or anything, but this sort of "I could tell you, but I would have to kill you" response is a little unbelievable Sir. Please prove me wrong.

...so now you are saying you were working for said "contracting" company, carrying a FAL rifle, and dodging hand grenade traps in Kosovo? Or are you saying this was during your navy service? This is getting quite intriguing. I have two very close friends that served in Kosovo BTW. Starting to doubt these credentials a little bit more now.
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Believe what you want, when you want, and how you want, all you want.

It has ZERO affect on my life.

The confusion is all yours.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
Believe what you want, when you want, and how you want, all you want.

It has ZERO affect on my life.

The confusion is all yours.
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Not confused bro, intrigued! Your life as a real world Rambo, snake eater, trained killer sounds like the bee's knees, or you might be trying to fool us all like some internet Mall Ninja like gecko45! Not trying to cause so much chaffing on the back side for you, but you are the one that opened the door about your secret merc life and all.
 
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