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The Assault Rifle Does it Again[W:265, 507]

Re: The Assault Rifle Does it Again

No, punishing law abiding citizens for the actions of criminals, while doing nothing to improve public safety. In fact, damaging it. THAT'S, gun grabber nonsense.

We're not talking about punishing anybody except innocent people trying to go about their day, but instead getting gunned down by a guy with an AR and over 200 rounds.

That's the topic. Now - what about the topic?
 
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Uh, that was just in that article.

But, you don't care right? As long as you can have any gun you want - it's okay.

If you want to convince me that AR-15's, or "assault weapons" in general, are a significant cause of death and mayhem in this country, that article was a poor choice then, wasn't it?

A better article would have said something like "according to FBI statistics/statements/study by yadda yadda, assault rifles have been used in ____ mass shootings since (insert some date)"

But yeah. Just want all the guns. That's me alright, eh guys?
 
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Don't know but all the more reason for law abiding folks to have their own.....because......................the police CANNOT protect you...they never could. Police protection is an oxymoron.

I count 10 holes.......a guy could do that with many types of guns.

Do you really think making them illegal will get them off the street and prevent gangs from acquiring them? Hilariously asinine! :roll:

So denial is all you have to offer.
 
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If you want to convince me that AR-15's, or "assault weapons" in general, are a significant cause of death and mayhem in this country, that article was a poor choice then, wasn't it?

A better article would have said something like "according to FBI statistics/statements/study by yadda yadda, assault rifles have been used in ____ mass shootings since (insert some date)"

But yeah. Just want all the guns. That's me alright, eh guys?

Denial noted.
 
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Denial noted.

None of those people would have been injured if the guy had a billy club.

The man got off 212 rounds. When was the last time 212 bludgeonings took place? 'bout - what, 1413 A.D.? Something like that?

How about an answer to the point rather than a run-around.


Did he kill 212 people? No he did not. So forget about the 212 bludgeonings hyperbole.


Check the FBI stats. Statistically, very very few people are murdered each year with ANY kind of rifle, including ARs.



You're engaging in hysteria over a crisis that isn't.



Handguns, knives and bludgeoning devices (hammers, bats, etc) are the most common weapons of murder. Rifles are far down the list. Check the FBI stats.


A man with a pump shotgun loaded with #0 buck can put more projectiles in the air in ten seconds than an AR can. A man with a 30.06 hunting rifle fires a far more deadly round more likely to pierce body armor plates than an AR.



Hysteria.
 
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Denial noted.

You are making an assertion and the burden is upon you to support it with evidence. You showed me an article that mentioned four mass shootings. I agree entirely that there are more than four in history.

How many more mass shootings am I supposed to infer from this article you mentioned? A dozen? A hundred? A thousand?
 
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So, we've all been reading about this latest Huston shooting shooting, and this is exactly why such weapons should not be in the streets:


Houston Shooter Fired 212 Rounds, Outgunned Police With America's Favorite Rifle



Here's what he was able to do to just a cop winshield:

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How many gangs around the country have these things, or Mac 9s etc?

Wow looking at the photo that guy clearly must have failed rifle qual. Seriously the ar15 is no more dangerous than a ruger mini 14, or any semi auto rifle. If he is an army vet I am both sad yet happy he is such a terrible shot, sad because even the worst army shooters know how to aim with one of those, and know not to spray, glad because in this case the deathtoll was vastly lower than it could have been, due to his terrible marksmenship.
 
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So a guy with an AR ratta-tat-tating, killing and injuring people on the street is "gun grabber nonsense".

That would be full auto....was this guy out there with an illegal gun? Ohhh Nooooo!

Uh, that was just in that article.

But, you don't care right? As long as you can have any gun you want - it's okay.

I should be able to have any gun that I want...
Why not? What I own, has nothing to do with this incident!

We're not talking about punishing anybody except innocent people trying to go about their day, but instead getting gunned down by a guy with an AR and over 200 rounds.

That's the topic. Now - what about the topic?

Big deal, 200 rounds is nothing dude!
 
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No, we've always had sick people. The real problem is the guns that these people can get, or the criminal element, to do mayhem with. This is just yet - another example.

it is another example of 2 or 3% if that of the population doing something that the other 99% don't do.
congrats.
 
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You are making an assertion and the burden is upon you to support it with evidence. You showed me an article that mentioned four mass shootings. I agree entirely that there are more than four in history.

How many more mass shootings am I supposed to infer from this article you mentioned? A dozen? A hundred? A thousand?

Take your pick.

Do you agree that such shootings and the weapons that have been used create a problem for the general public?
 
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Wow looking at the photo that guy clearly must have failed rifle qual. Seriously the ar15 is no more dangerous than a ruger mini 14, or any semi auto rifle. If he is an army vet I am both sad yet happy he is such a terrible shot, sad because even the worst army shooters know how to aim with one of those, and know not to spray, glad because in this case the deathtoll was vastly lower than it could have been, due to his terrible marksmenship.

More denial.

Fascinating.
 
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it is another example of 2 or 3% if that of the population doing something that the other 99% don't do.
congrats.

So people with 100s of rounds of ammo and four or five 30 round clips out hunting innocents and killing and maiming them is not a problem.
 
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Denial noted.

None of those people would have been injured if the guy had a billy club.

The man got off 212 rounds. When was the last time 212 bludgeonings took place? 'bout - what, 1413 A.D.? Something like that?

How about an answer to the point rather than a run-around.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd how many hit?
 
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More denial.

Fascinating.

Denial of what, that the guy is a terrible shot who probably got laughed at constantly in the army, or that the ar is no more dangerous than any other semi auto.


I'll tell you what, go to a range and rent an ar, and point at a target and squeeze the trigger as fast as you can, bet you will not hit the broad side of a barn, because spraying bullets is a waste, and innefective, which is why the military, police, etc not only do not do that, they literally train their guys not to and instead aim.
 
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it is another example of 2 or 3% if that of the population doing something that the other 99% don't do.
congrats.

Less than 1% actually
 
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So people with 100s of rounds of ammo and four or five 30 round clips out hunting innocents and killing and maiming them is not a problem.

No more a problem than someone raping a coed or beating their kid in a drunken stupor. Actually happens less. So no. Not a problem.
 
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More denial.

Fascinating.

Not denial. It is recognition of the fact that this asshat does not represent the experiences of tens of millions of AR owners who do not present a danger to anyone. As a matter of fact, it is your failure to wrap your bigoted mind around that fact that represents actual denial as well as pure ignorance of reality. Get over it.
 
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So people with 100s of rounds of ammo and four or five 30 round clips out hunting innocents and killing and maiming them is not a problem.

and yet instead of addressing that most people don't do this you come up with a logical fallacy.
most people don't hunt innocent people. in fact the vast majority of people don't do this.

so you are taking outliers and condemning the rest of people.
 
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Less than 1% actually

I was minutely giving him some margin of error.
I agree it is less than 1% no doubt.
 
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it is another example of 2 or 3% if that of the population doing something that the other 98% don't do.
congrats.

Pretty much.

Take your pick.

Do you agree that such shootings and the weapons that have been used create a problem for the general public?

I don't ....on either count..

It's so infinitesimal compared to traffic accidents, death by doctors and hospitals and other forms of death.

Hell, the federal govt. is killing us off in much greater numbers, by allowing high fructose corn syrup and salt to be added to so much that we eat. Go rag on them...for that.

More denial.

Fascinating.

More hogwash...par for the course.

Clearly, you want to make a bigger deal out of an occasional gun incident than the obesity epidemic in this country.
 
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and yet instead of addressing that most people don't do this you come up with a logical fallacy.
most people don't hunt innocent people. in fact the vast majority of people don't do this.

so you are taking outliers and condemning the rest of people.

He is not an moron, but he certainly holds some moronic opinions.
 
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So people with 100s of rounds of ammo and four or five 30 round clips out hunting innocents and killing and maiming them is not a problem.

Those are called criminals, no matter what time in history, no matter the weapon used. It's an illegal act, if done illegally....it's not illegal to own any of those things to protect oneself or family or even neighborhood, in the event of a national or even local breakdown of society.

CLEARLY................................you have no idea what you are saying!

and btw.....100s of rounds is small potatoes.....try tens of thousands of rounds.

You do realize that if an EMP occurs, or if the government is in turmoil, most people won't be able to buy or steal anymore ammo.....right? Just like gasoline and food and water....you will have what you have......and make do.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd how many hit?

Precisely! Just another thread whereby jet57 attempts to make a mountain....out of a molehill.

Denial of what, that the guy is a terrible shot who probably got laughed at constantly in the army, or that the ar is no more dangerous than any other semi auto.


I'll tell you what, go to a range and rent an ar, and point at a target and squeeze the trigger as fast as you can, bet you will not hit the broad side of a barn, because spraying bullets is a waste, and ineffective, which is why the military, police, etc not only do not do that, they literally train their guys not to and instead aim.

But if jet goes to the range...he needs to do a ratta-tat-tating for sure.....with his Full Auto weapon.:lamo
 
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Take your pick.

Do you agree that such shootings and the weapons that have been used create a problem for the general public?

Sure. But doesn't pretty much anything create a problem for the general public, to some degree? Assault rifles kill fewer people per year than vending machines, best as I can tell. So what's the standard?
 
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Less than 1% actually

Yep....and yet jet blows it all out of proportion....attempting feebly to make a 1% incident, the norm. Laughable for sure.

No more a problem than someone raping a coed or beating their kid in a drunken stupor. Actually happens less. So no. Not a problem.

Ditto!

Not denial. It is recognition of the fact that this asshat does not represent the experiences of tens of millions of AR owners who do not present a danger to anyone. As a matter of fact, it is your failure to wrap your bigoted mind around that fact that represents actual denial as well as pure ignorance of reality. Get over it.

Stellar post! :thumbs::thumbs:

and yet instead of addressing that most people don't do this you come up with a logical fallacy.
most people don't hunt innocent people. in fact the vast majority of people don't do this.

so you are taking outliers and condemning the rest of people.

Pretty juvenile in scope I would say. I think a 5th Grader would know better.

He is not an moron, but he certainly holds some moronic opinions.

I'll second that motion.
 
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