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To Gun Banners: Here are my Guns, why should I have them be taken away.

Chomsky said:
No, it's not a 'heavy' recoil in the general sense, but it can be a bit sharp with the stock wood grips and hotter loads.

It is a very small light gun, especially in the 2" version, and with the skinny stock grips and the exposed rear frame strap, along with +p loads, it delivered a bit of 'sharpness' in the recoil, for lack of better words. It surprised me compared to firing the +ps in the heavier framed Smiths. Nothing unmanageable, but was surprising. This is from my memories back in the '80's. My understanding is aftermarket grips resolved that.

(there also was an 'airweight' alloy version that was even lighter, but I never fired one).
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I have a titanium .38 that is even lighter. I don't find the recoil to be very meaningful but I don't view a .44 magnum as particularly bad either. If you want some recoil let me recommend a rifle in .300 win. magnum caliber or the .458. You will notice those.
 
fmw said:
I have a titanium .38 that is even lighter. I don't find the recoil to be very meaningful but I don't view a .44 magnum as particularly bad either. If you want some recoil let me recommend a rifle in .300 win. magnum caliber or the .458. You will notice those.
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the aluminum framed SW 460 or 500 revolvers-sold as a backpacker or fisherman's defense against bears

now those will rock your world

as a skinny 17 year old in Kenya in 1976 I fired a few rounds from a 458-the hunter wanted to make sure I could handle it in an emergency and while it was a heavy recoiling rifle, it wasn't something I couldn't handle because I had thousands of rounds of 12 shells experience. I sure would not have wanted to fire one of those suckers from the prone position though. It blew right through a termite hill that a 30-06 didn't get a third of the way through
 
Goshin said:
Are you shooting from the hip or from center lock or some other "retention" position?
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From either the seated position in my car, or supine position from my bed.
 
Because if you are a psychopath, sociopath, impulsive murderer, or paranoid schizophrenic then there are more odds that you will use these guns to abuse the 2A right by attacking with guns rather than using the 2A right by defending one's self with guns.
 
DDD said:
Because if you are a psychopath, sociopath, impulsive murderer, or paranoid schizophrenic then there are more odds that you will use these guns to abuse the 2A right by attacking with guns rather than using the 2A right by defending one's self with guns.
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you are arguing prior restraint which is loathsome to a free society
 
DDD said:
The free society does not consists of psychopaths, sociopaths, impulsive murders, and paranoid schizophrenics.
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your comments make no sense. You believe in prior restraint meaning you believe in disarming people with clean records because they MIGHT in the future become criminals.
 
Divergent said:
Another Leftist that thinks people should have guns. These scared to death Conspiracy Theory gun crazies think the Left wants to take them all away. It helps the gun industry sell more at the expense of exposing the ignorance of some.

Turtledude openly told me he think the Left Wing wants to ban all guns. I was in such stupidity shock I got Forest Whitaker eye for a minute.
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More gun - less crime, in spite of Obama.

Guns — Although Obama campaigned on a promise to reimpose the expired “assault weapons ban,” that has not been accomplished, and his tenure has actually been marked by a remarkable rise in the sale and ownership of firearms.

In 2015, the number of criminal background checks of potential gun buyers hit more than 14.2 million, as measured by the National Shooting Sports Foundation’s adjusted figures. That was 58 percent higher than in 2008.
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Violent Crime — Homicides and other violent crime have decreased markedly since Obama took office.

According to the FBI’s most recent annual compilation of crime reports published Dec. 14, there were 2,216 fewer murders and deaths from nonnegligent manslaughter in the U.S. during 2014 than in 2008, the year before Obama first took office. That’s a 13 percent reduction in the number of homicides.

The drop in all violent crime — including homicide, rape, robbery and aggravated assault — is even greater. There were 229,078 fewer violent crimes in the U.S. in 2014 than in 2008, a drop of 16 percent, according to the FBI.
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Obama’s Numbers (January 2016 Update)
 
TurtleDude said:
your comments make no sense. You believe in prior restraint meaning you believe in disarming people with clean records because they MIGHT in the future become criminals.
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Nope,

I believe that higher tech instruments should be used in examining whether one has a "clean record" or not. Is an impulsive murderous brain = clean record?
 
DDD said:
Nope,

I believe that higher tech instruments should be used in examining whether one has a "clean record" or not. Is an impulsive murderous brain = clean record?
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Yeah prior restraint-unconstutional and punishing people before they have done anything wrong. Disgusting
 
TurtleDude said:
Yeah prior restraint-unconstutional and punishing people before they have done anything wrong. Disgusting
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Yes, by all means let's ban gun ownership from anyone that Might one day Think about committing Murder, that basically includes every man, woman and child on the planet, oh wait that is their goal..........never mind.
Think I will go along with what one poster suggested on one of these "gun" threads, let's just jump to the finish line and Ban People.
 
Casper said:
Yes, by all means let's ban gun ownership from anyone that Might one day Think about committing Murder, that basically includes every man, woman and child on the planet, oh wait that is their goal..........never mind.
Think I will go along with what one poster suggested on one of these "gun" threads, let's just jump to the finish line and Ban People.
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we worry about his solution to rape and prostitution!
 
DDD said:
Until you learn to like it:

>>May the bloodshed commence<<
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Never going to support this Science Fiction Fascism
 
DDD said:
Hopefully more reasonably people that see it otherwise will one day.
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the last thing our society needs are more Orwellian control freaks and the laws those sick fascists want
 
TurtleDude said:
the last thing our society needs are more Orwellian control freaks and the laws those sick fascists want
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They supposedly have a remake of 1984 coming out as early as this year. Side note.

I don't own any guns. I work for a company that owns...many, many guns mostly military grade rifles.
I work for the weapon sight part of the deal.

I don't think any weapons should not be owned as long as they are owned legally. I don't think Adam Lanza should have had guns in his possession (Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold even less so) but I honestly don't know what the answer for that is...
 
DDD said:
Nonsense, but whatever.
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the nonsense is a foreigner telling Us Americans why we should get rid of our Constitutional rights-
 
Ntharotep said:
They supposedly have a remake of 1984 coming out as early as this year. Side note.

I don't own any guns. I work for a company that owns...many, many guns mostly military grade rifles.
I work for the weapon sight part of the deal.

I don't think any weapons should not be owned as long as they are owned legally. I don't think Adam Lanza should have had guns in his possession (Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold even less so) but I honestly don't know what the answer for that is...
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red dot, telescopic or NVD/Thermal imaging?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
No one, including president Obama, has said you shouldn't be allowed to have your guns. Do you feel you have a right to sell guns to convicted felons? What about to terrorists? To children?

Part of being a gun owner is being a responsible one.
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That's just not true. Any number of groups and individuals have called for an outright ban on civilian weapons. Many political leaders have banned firearms in their own jurisdictions and called for bans elsewhere using the argument that their problems stem from lax laws elsewhere. Others have called for and in many cases gotten certain groups of weapons banned, including the assault weapons ban enacted during Clinton.
 
DDD said:
... so as to spare more bloodshed from the innocent American lives, yes.
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why not just lock everyone up? sorry, freedom is to important to adopt your fascist proposals
 
RabidAlpaca said:
No one, including president Obama, has said you shouldn't be allowed to have your guns. Do you feel you have a right to sell guns to convicted felons? What about to terrorists? To children?

Part of being a gun owner is being a responsible one.
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do you actually believe that swill? that Obama and his ilk would stop with expanded Background checks if he thought he could ban guns? where were you when Obama was having gushing praise for English and Australian gun bans? where were you when Obama and lots of his minions in the senate were braying about reinstating the clinton gun ban.

you are either being intentionally ignorant about what Obama and the Democrat party has called for or you are not being truthful as to what their intentions are
 
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