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If guns were banned....[W:145]

Re: If guns were banned....

MickeyW said:
Except we have had common sense gun laws for decades and don't need any more laws.

Common Sense to a liberal means Gun Ban....and liberals don't possess common sense anyway! So it's an oxymoron.
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Oh come on-if YOUR REAL GOAL is harassing gun owners, banning guns, and trying to get rid of the NRA's political power (which is the real motivation of most banoids) then all those stupid laws they propose that has nothing to do with crime control actually makes a lot of sense to advance THE TRUE goals of the banoids
 
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Manc Skipper said:
There's no limit to the amount of ammunition Farouq or any other gun nut could legally store in his garage. US gun regulation is ridiculously lax.
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Personally, I like it that way. And you obviously don't have a clue on the difference between a terrorist, a gun nut and a gun enthusiast. There is nothing wrong with owning whatever gun a guy wants and all the ammo he can possess.....nothing at all.
And we don't all use the garage.....many of us have bunkers* in the hills with a cache of food, water, ammo, guns and cash. I imagine folks like you will not fair well, when chaos becomes the norm in America. ;)

Besides, what difference does it make to you if a law abiding citizen has tens of thousands of rounds of ammo and an unlimited number of guns? As long as they don't harm anyone and it's only for self defense when society breaks down completely and there is no such thing as police protection. I mean what's it to you and why are you so afraid?

*Look up bunkers, it's a big business in America, for those who are enlightened.
 
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MickeyW said:
Personally, I like it that way. And we don't all use the garage.....many of us have bunkers in the hills with a cache of food, ammo, guns and cash. I imagine folks like you will not fair well, when chaos becomes the norm in America.;)
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He's in England. ;)
 
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TurtleDude said:
China executes thousands upon thousands of people who commit crimes that we only incarcerate the defendants for
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I had something in my eye and thought you said incinerate! Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Hmmmmm......
 
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ObamacareFail said:
A bit dramatic aren't you? The more incarcerated is mostly a result of our revolving door criminal justice system.
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Correct .....and that is why I have been a proponent of an increase in the Death Penalty since I was in high school. I say bring back the guillotine and stop the frivolous appeals.
 
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MickeyW said:
Wellllll..................................no ****ing Wonder!!!

Sheeeesh! We left that god forsaken fog belt for a reason!
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We shipped our criminals and crazy religious sects out.
 
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haymarket said:
No I do not .
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Well..then I can assume that you understand my concept that truth in sentencing does not mean violent criminals get a clean slate after serving their sentence.
 
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Ganesh said:
You've never been in the military, have you?
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Yes...sport...I did serve in the military. Three years in the early to mid 1970s.

Because if you had, you would understand how ridiculously, absurdly easy it was to take a life.
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Quite easy, I am sure, however I was fortunate in that I never had to take a life.

If the perpetrator had no cares about his or her own life, then the equation goes from ridiculously easy to a slam dunk.
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It is a given, sport, that a cold blooded killer has no respect for his or his victims lives.

Your goofy notions of Marshall Dillion, or John Wayne, drawing on the bad guys on main street, Dodge City, gun fight style, come from movies you have seen. The reality is vastly different.
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You are the one coming up with goofy notions of Marshal Dillion and John Wayne, Dodge City, etc. I did not mention any of them. My point, which you seem to have failed to grasp is that a responsible gun owner, especially one with a concealed carry permit can limit or prevent the carnage in terrorist attacks or other mass shootings. The only thing likely to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. That's why deranged nutjobs like the two idiot teens that shot up the high school in Columbine and the one that shot up the school at Sandy Hook, stopped shooting victims and took their own lives once the police sirens announced armed men coming at them.

The more people you arm, the more destruction will take place.
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Which part of "nobody suggested arming everyone" did you not understand? The problem is that you apparently feel that everyone should be disarmed other then the perpetrator who does not give a damn about gun laws.
 
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Black Dog said:
None of that is true. You are the one arguing hollywood nonsense. I served for 12 years and was a cop. Taking a life is one of the hardest things you can ever do. I have never had to take anyones life, but I know plenty that have. They are never ever the same, EVER.

For you to sit there and spew that nonsense is almost comical.

Your credibility is 0.
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Ganesh is apparently of the mindset that he thinks any civilian in possession of a firearm is going to automatically turn into a drooling psychopath with no skill set....and that we should all behave like sheep and accept our fate if caught in a mass shooting incident, unless the cops arrive in time to save us.
 
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MickeyW said:
Except we have had common sense gun laws for decades and don't need any more laws.

Common Sense to a liberal means Gun Ban....and liberals don't possess common sense anyway! So it's an oxymoron.
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That is a given as the liberals do not enforce the gun laws already on the books. They are not interested in common sense gun laws. They are incrementally attempting an all out gun ban.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
Ganesh is apparently of the mindset that he thinks any civilian in possession of a firearm is going to automatically turn into a drooling psychopath with no skill set....and that we should all behave like sheep and accept our fate if caught in a mass shooting incident, unless the cops arrive in time to save us.
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Whatever he is that statement was untrue hyperbole at it's finest.
 
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MickeyW said:
Correct .....and that is why I have been a proponent of an increase in the Death Penalty since I was in high school. I say bring back the guillotine and stop the frivolous appeals.
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I don't care about the death penalty methods. Electric Chair, lethal injection, firing squad...or just putting them under anesthesia and not bringing them out. They just need to do it in a timely manner and eliminate the frivolous appeals. Most of them kill their victims instantly and then get to live 15 to 25 years on death row.
 
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haymarket said:
The only way I can see losing your right to be armed is if your crime involved arms.
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That's absurd..

So fellow rapes 6 women,, and does it with a kitchen knife...

another fellow gets convicted of negligence with a firearm... and you are fine with the rapist being legally able to purchase a firearm?

that's nuts.
 
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haymarket said:
Your thoughts have much merit and it would be difficult to disagree with your logic since you connected the crime and behavior with groups.



If we had a background check for all purchases, the local department would be free to make a recommendation based on history. But I think a general rule saying you can never own a firearm because you were in prison goes too far.
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Bingo.. so in your world.. all law abiding citizens have to undergo a background check, and a convicted felon is still allowed to purchase a firearm! :doh

Yeah.. okay... :roll:
 
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jaeger19 said:
Bingo.. so in your world.. all law abiding citizens have to undergo a background check, and a convicted felon is still allowed to purchase a firearm! :doh

Yeah.. okay... :roll:
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The former felon would also have to undergo a background check and meet the standards of that state or community.
 
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jaeger19 said:
That's absurd..

So fellow rapes 6 women,, and does it with a kitchen knife...

another fellow gets convicted of negligence with a firearm... and you are fine with the rapist being legally able to purchase a firearm?

that's nuts.
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Is a knife not an arm?

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The only way I can see losing your right to be armed is if your crime involved arms.
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Manc Skipper said:
We shipped our criminals and crazy religious sects out.
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To make room for muslim and other crazies?

ObamacareFail said:
That is a given as the liberals do not enforce the gun laws already on the books. They are not interested in common sense gun laws. They are incrementally attempting an all out gun ban.
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Absolutely correct!

Black Dog said:
Whatever he is that statement was untrue hyperbole at it's finest.
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Yep.

ObamacareFail said:
I don't care about the death penalty methods. Electric Chair, lethal injection, firing squad...or just putting them under anesthesia and not bringing them out. They just need to do it in a timely manner and eliminate the frivolous appeals. Most of them kill their victims instantly and then get to live 15 to 25 years on death row.
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True that......

haymarket said:
The former felon would also have to undergo a background check and meet the standards of that state or community.
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In most states, once a felon, always a felon and a permanent loss of gun rights. I don't totally agree with that....C Felonies should be taken on a case by case basis.
 
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haymarket said:
Is a knife not an arm?
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Knives and clubs and boots, can be an arm. Anything that can be used as a weapon, is an arm.
So can the hands of a boxer or an accomplished martial artist.
 
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MickeyW said:
Knives and clubs and boots, can be an arm. Anything that can be used as a weapon, is an arm.
So can the hands of a boxer or an accomplished martial artist.
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How much time effort and training does it take a boxer to kill four people including himself? Any idiot with a gun can commit a mass shooting in seconds.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
How much time effort and training does it take a boxer to kill four people including himself? Any idiot with a gun can commit a mass shooting in seconds.
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just as a 70 year old woman can spent 5 years taking HwrangDo and a 20 year old street punk will still waste her but she with a Colt 1911 and some training is more than a match of 3-4 scum bags who kick down her door while she is barricaded behind her bed with that weapon trained on the door
 
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