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I saw this piece on CNBC about this guy shows people how to assemble an AK 47 using akit a you can buy over the internet. there would be no serial number, so it's untraceable. also there are apparently no laws governing making you own gun. Anybody else see this?
 
KLATTU said:
I saw this piece on CNBC about this guy shows people how to assemble an AK 47 using akit a you can buy over the internet. there would be no serial number, so it's untraceable. also there are apparently no laws governing making you own gun. Anybody else see this?
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Didn't see it, but that's pretty awesome. The government doesn't need to know what guns I own.
 
The fact that you believe that means they do.
 
This is not new. You can buy many kits to build firearms.
 
Something tells me owning a firearm without a serial number may be a problem. Especially if you are assembling it and not an FFl. I wonder where this will go
 
stonewall50 said:
Something tells me owning a firearm without a serial number may be a problem. Especially if you are assembling it and not an FFl. I wonder where this will go
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Totally legal as long as you aren't selling them. Nothing illegal about building your own firearm.
 
It is illegal to possess an unregistered machine gun even if you make it. Yes, that makes no sense but FDR's remaining infection has corrupted our jurisprudential fabric and some Banoid Judge has held merely possessing a MG you made "affects interstate commerce"

plus most states parrot the federal law saying you can only own one that is registered pursuant to the 1934 NFA

for firearms that do not require NFA registration-such as a semi auto version of the AK, its most likely legal
 
Bootlace said:
Totally legal as long as you aren't selling them. Nothing illegal about building your own firearm.
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As long as it is legal to buy in the US, you can build it legally, but only for personal use. In other words you can't sell it or give it to anyone ever. TD pretty much covered the rest.
 
Bootlace said:
Totally legal as long as you aren't selling them. Nothing illegal about building your own firearm.
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Met a machinist once. He actually designed and fabricated a 50 caliber sniper rifle. I think the FBI came to talk to him, as he wanted to be legal, and applied for some sort of paper work. (FFI?)

I saw the near final product. It was a massive thing, and looked really, really nice.

Of course, a 50 cal isn't an AK-47, so that may have been some sort of difference. Can't imagine spending $5 a round shooting it at the range though. That's kinda expensive for my tastes.
 
KLATTU said:
I saw this piece on CNBC about this guy shows people how to assemble an AK 47 using akit a you can buy over the internet. there would be no serial number, so it's untraceable. also there are apparently no laws governing making you own gun. Anybody else see this?
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Been around for a while.

Some, you must form the receiver using a jig that comes with the kit, then drill for the pin and screw holes. Others, I believe come with the receivers 90% or so formed.

AR receivers are also available for building your own.

You just can not sell them or that is when the brown matter hits the twirly blades.
 
eohrnberger said:
Met a machinist once. He actually designed and fabricated a 50 caliber sniper rifle. I think the FBI came to talk to him, as he wanted to be legal, and applied for some sort of paper work. (FFI?)

I saw the near final product. It was a massive thing, and looked really, really nice.

Of course, a 50 cal isn't an AK-47, so that may have been some sort of difference. Can't imagine spending $5 a round shooting it at the range though. That's kinda expensive for my tastes.
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I haven't done anything that large. Built a few of ar-15s in my garage. Using a drill press, jig, and assorted bits, a lower takes me about 2 hours to mill. I went with bravo company for the rest of the parts. The final assemblies run flawlessly.
 
Bootlace said:
I haven't done anything that large. Built a few of ar-15s in my garage. Using a drill press, jig, and assorted bits, a lower takes me about 2 hours to mill. I went with bravo company for the rest of the parts. The final assemblies run flawlessly.
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That's the most important part. Flawless! Well done.
 
KLATTU said:
I saw this piece on CNBC about this guy shows people how to assemble an AK 47 using akit a you can buy over the internet. there would be no serial number, so it's untraceable. also there are apparently no laws governing making you own gun. Anybody else see this?
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This has been available for quite some time. However ak kits are scarce and place that sell them are usually on constant backorder. The other popular one is the ar15 made with a blank reciever, so it has no serial number.

The thing is though even though you can legally mke one with no serial numbers, it is illegal to sell it.
 
KLATTU said:
I saw this piece on CNBC about this guy shows people how to assemble an AK 47 using akit a you can buy over the internet. there would be no serial number, so it's untraceable. also there are apparently no laws governing making you own gun. Anybody else see this?
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Making a machine gun without proper licensing is very illegal. It's a federal offense.
 
Threads like this are exactly why you shouldn't get legal advice from the Internet. So far only two people in the thread (TD and myself) know what we're talking about.
 
Paleocon said:
Making a machine gun without proper licensing is very illegal. It's a federal offense.
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true but the constitutional reasons behind that are bogus. One lower court (or more) have held merely making a machine gun "impacts" interstate commerce which is an incredibly idiotic possession. But you are right
 
stonewall50 said:
Something tells me owning a firearm without a serial number may be a problem. Especially if you are assembling it and not an FFl. I wonder where this will go
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Because it's not a gun until you finish machining the lower.
 
TurtleDude said:
It is illegal to possess an unregistered machine gun even if you make it. Yes, that makes no sense but FDR's remaining infection has corrupted our jurisprudential fabric and some Banoid Judge has held merely possessing a MG you made "affects interstate commerce"

plus most states parrot the federal law saying you can only own one that is registered pursuant to the 1934 NFA

for firearms that do not require NFA registration-such as a semi auto version of the AK, its most likely legal
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Full auto never entered my mind. The ones I have built have to be just as neutered as ones I buy off the shelf.
 
stonewall50 said:
Something tells me owning a firearm without a serial number may be a problem. Especially if you are assembling it and not an FFl. I wonder where this will go
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You can do the same with an 80% AR-15 receceiver.
 
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Next someone will be telling us that some private citizen learned how to draw brass, make primers and powder.

Personally, I wouldn't care if the receiver had serial numbers or not. Now an untraceable barrel and the ability to make more....hmmm....
 
Putting the gas tube on top like the STG44, the AK47 and the AR15 gives you a huge parallax problem which makes it useless for varminting and suspect for precision.

In addition to which Stoner forgot to design an operating rod handle for his AR's. Anytime these jam you need a flathead screwdriver and a hammer to unjam the bolt.

You are infinitely better off with an M-1 Carbine design like the Ruger Mini's.
 
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