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Goshin

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Colorado Campus Carry: 12 Years, No Mass Shootings, No Crimes by Permit Holders - Breitbart


There have been no mass shootings and, apart from one incident in which a gun was accidentally discharged by a Colorado University employee, there have been no crimes by permit holders.
No one was injured in the accidental discharge, and the employee was fired.
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Mom's Demand Action, Salon.com, Everytown for Gun Safety and others advised that allowing carry on campus would be a disaster. It was not so.

Scholarly studies show that women, in particular, are far safer from rape when armed with a gun. NCVS and Kleck/etc al support this, and Colorado's campus carry experience shows that their assertions (that CCWers would BE the problem) are in error.

Colorado’s campus carry experience shows concealed carry permit holders simply aren’t those committing crimes on campuses.
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Every time gun rights for the law-abiding are expanded, the Anti's cry 'Blood in the streets!!'.... and every time they end up proven wrong.
 
Goshin said:
Colorado Campus Carry: 12 Years, No Mass Shootings, No Crimes by Permit Holders - Breitbart




Mom's Demand Action, Salon.com, Everytown for Gun Safety and others advised that allowing carry on campus would be a disaster. It was not so.

Scholarly studies show that women, in particular, are far safer from rape when armed with a gun. NCVS and Kleck/etc al support this, and Colorado's campus carry experience shows that their assertions (that CCWers would BE the problem) are in error.






Every time gun rights for the law-abiding are expanded, the Anti's cry 'Blood in the streets!!'.... and every time they end up proven wrong.
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"You know, we're really getting sick of you gun nuts countering our fear, death, and doom-and-gloom predictions with your facts, statistics, history, law, and the Constitution. Now, if you'll pardon me, I have some NRA members to SWAT." - Sharon Watts
 
Why not mention the following about Colorado's Concealed Carry law?
In Colorado, an applicant must be at least 21 years old, pass a fingerprint-based background check, and a safety-training class taught by a nationally-certified instructor. Even if a person meets all these conditions, the statute instructs the Sheriff to deny the application “if the sheriff has a reasonable belief that documented previous behavior by the applicant makes it likely the applicant will present a danger to self or others.”
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or in other words, one person in each of the 62 Colorado counties has the right to keep a citizen from carrying a concealed firearm.

Colorado statistics become even more relevant when one looks at the push to do away with background checks on CCW permit applicants.
Colorado GOP moves to repeal new background checks for guns
Nevada Senate passes GOP's free gun background check bill but doesn't make them mandatory
 
Somerville said:
Why not mention the following about Colorado's Concealed Carry law?


or in other words, one person in each of the 62 Colorado counties has the right to keep a citizen from carrying a concealed firearm.

Colorado statistics become even more relevant when one looks at the push to do away with background checks on CCW permit applicants.
Colorado GOP moves to repeal new background checks for guns
Nevada Senate passes GOP's free gun background check bill but doesn't make them mandatory
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Hence the problem with 'may issue' laws compared to 'shall issue'.

Thank God OH has shall issue CCW laws to eliminate any bias from the county Sherrifs.
 
Somerville said:
Why not mention the following about Colorado's Concealed Carry law?


or in other words, one person in each of the 62 Colorado counties has the right to keep a citizen from carrying a concealed firearm.

Colorado statistics become even more relevant when one looks at the push to do away with background checks on CCW permit applicants.
Colorado GOP moves to repeal new background checks for guns
Nevada Senate passes GOP's free gun background check bill but doesn't make them mandatory
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The law only permits the sheriff to deny on an objective basis though. The applicant entitled to a permit as a matter of law and it can only be denied if the sheriff can prove the applicant shouldn't have one. Very few people can legally be denied, and if the sheriff wrongfully denies a license a court will order him to issue it
 
EMNofSeattle said:
The law only permits the sheriff to deny on an objective basis though. The applicant entitled to a permit as a matter of law and it can only be denied if the sheriff can prove the applicant shouldn't have one. Very few people can legally be denied, and if the sheriff wrongfully denies a license a court will order him to issue it
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In some "may issue" states that is true. In quite a few locations I have heard horror stories about abuses of that, many of those sheriffs will come up with any disqualifier even including a "bad feeling" about the individual, people with no priors and no reasonable suspicion. May issue cannot work under circumstances like that.
 
LaMidRighter said:
In some "may issue" states that is true. In quite a few locations I have heard horror stories about abuses of that, many of those sheriffs will come up with any disqualifier even including a "bad feeling" about the individual, people with no priors and no reasonable suspicion. May issue cannot work under circumstances like that.
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That would be NY. It would take an act of God and hell to freeze over before CCWs get issued by most jurisdictions in the vicinity of NYC.
 
Gaius46 said:
That would be NY. It would take an act of God and hell to freeze over before CCWs get issued by most jurisdictions in the vicinity of NYC.
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I've heard there, Ma. is notorious for that, and a few other of the NE states as well as Chicago and Cali. Not familiar with all of the "hot spots" for extremely selective issuance but the especially glaring examples, yep.

This is a "shall issue" state, but from what I've come to understand our current sheriff likes to play fast and loose with the sign off exemption granted law enforcement under the NFA. He won't issue sign offs for perfectly qualified FFL seekers to purchase full autos even if they are squeaky clean and meet all requirements to be green lighted simply because it's his opinion that we shouldn't be allowed to own them. He is retiring after this term and good riddance.
 
LaMidRighter said:
In some "may issue" states that is true. In quite a few locations I have heard horror stories about abuses of that, many of those sheriffs will come up with any disqualifier even including a "bad feeling" about the individual, people with no priors and no reasonable suspicion. May issue cannot work under circumstances like that.
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When I was station at Camp Pendleton, CA as A Marine K-9 MP. Cali denied me a conceal carry license due to lack of training.
 
cpgrad08 said:
When I was station at Camp Pendleton, CA as A Marine K-9 MP. Cali denied me a conceal carry license due to lack of training.
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry. :roll:
 
cpgrad08 said:
When I was station at Camp Pendleton, CA as A Marine K-9 MP. Cali denied me a conceal carry license due to lack of training.
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Thus is their logic. The same training you had in advanced weapons and tactics somehow goes away in your civilian clothes.:roll:
 
LaMidRighter said:
Thus is their logic. The same training you had in advanced weapons and tactics somehow goes away in your civilian clothes.:roll:
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Or the fact being an MP I had to go through the same Police Academy training as they did. So I ask them " So you are saying that you don't have enough training as well?" Never got an answer back.
 
cpgrad08 said:
Or the fact being an MP I had to go through the same Police Academy training as they did. So I ask them " So you are saying that you don't have enough training as well?" Never got an answer back.
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Shoulda joined the Air Force, then you woulda been stationed In Edwards AFB (Kern County) or Beale (Butte County) and both of then hand out licenses like candy!

I'm surprised Riverside County doesn't issue them, at Pendleton are you in Riverside County or is that LA county?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Shoulda joined the Air Force, then you woulda been stationed In Edwards AFB (Kern County) or Beale (Butte County) and both of then hand out licenses like candy!

I'm surprised Riverside County doesn't issue them, at Pendleton are you in Riverside County or is that LA county?
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Pendleton Falls under Riverside, San Diego, and LA county.
 
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