The LT Colonel is Coming Home! Look OutNRA!

"This is too much. We have Tea Party political activists shooting cops from behind, in the head, then covering their dead bodies with the Tea Party “Gadsden” flag and shouting, “The Revolution begins now!”
No. I am coming home. I need to be there and be part of the solution.Moms Demand Action is getting some traction, but they can use the lean-in of a few U.S. Army Airborne Infantry Rangers. I am only sorry that I did not stand up to this threat to our nation before. I am sorry. I was busy.
I have been overseas in Afghanistan and in NATO nations for half a decade while the insanity of the National Rifle Association expanded and exploded, and the NRA became, essentially, the tool of death in the United States. They made mass killings normal... "
Well done, NRA. But this **** is too much.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/i-am-coming-home

Manc Skipper said:

"This is too much. We have Tea Party political activists shooting cops from behind, in the head, then covering their dead bodies with the Tea Party “Gadsden” flag and shouting, “The Revolution begins now!”
No. I am coming home. I need to be there and be part of the solution.Moms Demand Action is getting some traction, but they can use the lean-in of a few U.S. Army Airborne Infantry Rangers. I am only sorry that I did not stand up to this threat to our nation before. I am sorry. I was busy.
I have been overseas in Afghanistan and in NATO nations for half a decade while the insanity of the National Rifle Association expanded and exploded, and the NRA became, essentially, the tool of death in the United States. They made mass killings normal... "
Well done, NRA. But this **** is too much.

That's It. I Am Coming Home. - Esquire

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Another anti-2nd amendment loon trying to blame a pro-2nd amendment group for acts of evil being committed by evil individuals. The NRA isn't going to give a **** just because some anti-2nd amendment loons happened to have served in the military.

well, ok then...... despite millions upon millions of Veterans that are here, surely, you'll be the one to come in and save the day ,Captain fantastic.


the dude needs to get over himself.... nothing he, I, or anyone else can do about crazy folks.... and if he blames the NRA, be might need a lil mental health help for himself as well.

Manc Skipper said:

They made mass killings normal... "

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What's the only nation where schools have to have lock-down drills? Just today there was another fatal school shooting in Oregon:

The attack with what police said was a semi-automatic weapon — "Shooter dressed in all black w AR-15 and vest and helmet. Cornered in bathroom by officers," according to Good Day Oregon's Kate Cagle — was the 74th since December 2012, when Adam Lanza killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. That's one about every eight days.

In 2014 so far, there have been 37 school shootings. As of February, about half of the incidents were fatal.

Georgia tops the dishonorable list, with ten shootings reported since Newtown, while Florida is next with seven. Overall, 31 states are represented on the list.

One school shooting about every eight days.

Please pardon the sound of the children screaming in terror - that's the sound of Second Amendment Freedom!!!!

Glen Contrarian said:

What's the only nation where schools have to have lock-down drills? Just today there was another fatal school shooting in Oregon:

The attack with what police said was a semi-automatic weapon — "Shooter dressed in all black w AR-15 and vest and helmet. Cornered in bathroom by officers," according to Good Day Oregon's Kate Cagle — was the 74th since December 2012, when Adam Lanza killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. That's one about every eight days.

In 2014 so far, there have been 37 school shootings. As of February, about half of the incidents were fatal.

Georgia tops the dishonorable list, with ten shootings reported since Newtown, while Florida is next with seven. Overall, 31 states are represented on the list.

One school shooting about every eight days.

Please pardon the sound of the children screaming in terror - that's the sound of Second Amendment Freedom!!!!

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You need to seek professional help.

MACS-24 said:

You need to seek professional help.

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You need to remove your head and smell the blood

Glen Contrarian said:

What's the only nation where schools have to have lock-down drills? Just today there was another fatal school shooting in Oregon:

The attack with what police said was a semi-automatic weapon — "Shooter dressed in all black w AR-15 and vest and helmet. Cornered in bathroom by officers," according to Good Day Oregon's Kate Cagle — was the 74th since December 2012, when Adam Lanza killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. That's one about every eight days.

In 2014 so far, there have been 37 school shootings. As of February, about half of the incidents were fatal.

Georgia tops the dishonorable list, with ten shootings reported since Newtown, while Florida is next with seven. Overall, 31 states are represented on the list.

One school shooting about every eight days.

Please pardon the sound of the children screaming in terror - that's the sound of Second Amendment Freedom!!!!

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so , i'll take it you agree with GI Joe that it's the NRA fault... or is it just the 2A fault?

Thrilla said:

so , i'll take it you agree with GI Joe that it's the NRA fault... or is it just the 2A fault?

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It's not the 2A's fault - if we took the 2A as it is written AND in the context of the times in which it was written, we wouldn't have a problem at all. The fault lay with those who insist on taking it out of context, who ignore the reason what the "militia" text says and - more especially - why it is there.

How many have to die for people to understand that we don't want to take away everyone's guns - Pandora's out of the box and she ain't getting back in - but we DO want to minimize the access to guns for those who should not have guns in the first place. We DO want to make it harder for sociopaths, psychopaths, felons, sexual predators, and terrorists to get firearms. Is this really that ignoble a goal?

Manc Skipper said:

You need to remove your head and smell the blood

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Yeah, comments like this go a long way to solve the problem, unless you really enjoy dancing on the graves of the innocent.

Once again, the bodies are barely cold and we get this sick nonsense. It really helps the gun control crowd loose credibility.

MACS-24 said:

You need to seek professional help.

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This might help you to better understand my comment.

Glen Contrarian said:

It's not the 2A's fault - if we took the 2A as it is written AND in the context of the times in which it was written, we wouldn't have a problem at all. The fault lay with those who insist on taking it out of context, who ignore the reason what the "militia" text says and - more especially - why it is there.

How many have to die for people to understand that we don't want to take away everyone's guns - Pandora's out of the box and she ain't getting back in - but we DO want to minimize the access to guns for those who should not have guns in the first place. We DO want to make it harder for sociopaths, psychopaths, felons, sexual predators, and terrorists to get firearms. Is this really that ignoble a goal?

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If we did do as you suggest and took the 2nd as intended, these gun shootings you like to dance about would be even lower than they already are.

Glen Contrarian said:

This might help you to better understand my comment.

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Too late! you already have blood on your feet.

Glen Contrarian said:

What's the only nation where schools have to have lock-down drills? Just today there was another fatal school shooting in Oregon:

The attack with what police said was a semi-automatic weapon — "Shooter dressed in all black w AR-15 and vest and helmet. Cornered in bathroom by officers," according to Good Day Oregon's Kate Cagle — was the 74th since December 2012, when Adam Lanza killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. That's one about every eight days.

In 2014 so far, there have been 37 school shootings. As of February, about half of the incidents were fatal.

Georgia tops the dishonorable list, with ten shootings reported since Newtown, while Florida is next with seven. Overall, 31 states are represented on the list.

One school shooting about every eight days.

Please pardon the sound of the children screaming in terror - that's the sound of Second Amendment Freedom!!!!

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37 school shootings out the 132,183 public and private k-12 schools. Are those like get struck by lighting,winning the lotto or having a hot supermodel give you a blow job odds? Oh No! the sky is falling the sky is falling the sky is falling.

Glen Contrarian said:

It's not the 2A's fault - if we took the 2A as it is written AND in the context of the times in which it was written, we wouldn't have a problem at all. The fault lay with those who insist on taking it out of context, who ignore the reason what the "militia" text says and - more especially - why it is there.

How many have to die for people to understand that we don't want to take away everyone's guns - Pandora's out of the box and she ain't getting back in - but we DO want to minimize the access to guns for those who should not have guns in the first place. We DO want to make it harder for sociopaths, psychopaths, felons, sexual predators, and terrorists to get firearms. Is this really that ignoble a goal?

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nothing wrong with the goal... there's everything wrong about how y'all are going about trying to achieve that goal.

gun control is all about prior restraint and "guilty, until you prove yourself innocent".... and now it's about a bunch of really stupid and/or crazy people that can't find 2 brains cells to rub together when they are looking ot place blame for the heinous, evil acts of other crazy/stupid people.


most everybody knows the 2a protects our.. the people.. right to keep and bears arms... if you want to get all wishy washy about it.. .great, i'm sure you'll find plenty of knuckleheads that believes it's about allowing the national guard to have their guns.
y'all will be on the wrong side of the Constitution,the Supreme court, and the English language... but hey, it's a free country, be as wrong as you want to be.

Manc Skipper said:

"This is too much. We have Tea Party political activists shooting cops from behind, in the head, then covering their dead bodies with the Tea Party “Gadsden” flag and shouting, “The Revolution begins now!”
No. I am coming home. I need to be there and be part of the solution.Moms Demand Action is getting some traction, but they can use the lean-in of a few U.S. Army Airborne Infantry Rangers. I am only sorry that I did not stand up to this threat to our nation before. I am sorry. I was busy.
I have been overseas in Afghanistan and in NATO nations for half a decade while the insanity of the National Rifle Association expanded and exploded, and the NRA became, essentially, the tool of death in the United States. They made mass killings normal... "
Well done, NRA. But this **** is too much.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/i-am-coming-home

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I bet you're just eating up that school shooter in Oregon today.

MACS-24 said:

If we did do as you suggest and took the 2nd as intended, these gun shootings you like to dance about would be even lower than they already are.

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One would indeed hope that they are "lower" just as you said...because right now they're by far the highest in the world (except for Nigeria).

Jerry said:

I bet you're just eating up that school shooter in Oregon today.

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Not me, the Lt Colonel.

jamesrage said:

37 school shootings out the 132,183 public and private k-12 schools. Are those like get struck by lighting,winning the lotto or having a hot supermodel give you a blow job odds? Oh No! the sky is falling the sky is falling the sky is falling.

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From CNN:

"In the United States, we had 9,000 people killed with guns last year, in similar countries like Germany 170 (killed with guns), in Canada 150. There's a reason for that," Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-New York, told CNN's Piers Morgan.
"The proof in the pudding is that in every other industrialized nation except the United States, they have reasonable gun control laws, and they have hundreds of people killed each year -- not 9,000 or 10,000 a year -- killed by guns."

Guy, we're not trying to take away everyone's guns - we simply want to try to keep them out of the hands of kooks who shouldn't have access to them to begin with. SENSIBLE gun control laws - like those found in every other first-world nation including Switzerland and Israel (but not Japan) are not tyranny. The 'tyranny' line is what's fed to you so you can help the bottom line of gun manufacturers...and their proxy the NRA.

The NRA's gone off the deep end - and that's why George H.W. Bush rescinded his lifetime membership nearly twenty years ago.

Glen Contrarian said:

From CNN:

"In the United States, we had 9,000 people killed with guns last year, in similar countries like Germany 170 (killed with guns), in Canada 150. There's a reason for that," Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-New York, told CNN's Piers Morgan.
"The proof in the pudding is that in every other industrialized nation except the United States, they have reasonable gun control laws, and they have hundreds of people killed each year -- not 9,000 or 10,000 a year -- killed by guns."

Guy, we're not trying to take away everyone's guns - we simply want to try to keep them out of the hands of kooks who shouldn't have access to them to begin with. SENSIBLE gun control laws - like those found in every other first-world nation including Switzerland and Israel (but not Japan) are not tyranny. The 'tyranny' line is what's fed to you so you can help the bottom line of gun manufacturers...and their proxy the NRA.

The NRA's gone off the deep end - and that's why George H.W. Bush rescinded his lifetime membership nearly twenty years ago.

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You cannot have "reasonable" or "sensible" gun laws when the only thing it does is harm lawful citizens. Tell me who is it reasonable and sensible for. Who's feeding whom?

Manc Skipper said:

"This is too much. We have Tea Party political activists shooting cops from behind, in the head, then covering their dead bodies with the Tea Party “Gadsden” flag and shouting, “The Revolution begins now!”
No. I am coming home. I need to be there and be part of the solution.Moms Demand Action is getting some traction, but they can use the lean-in of a few U.S. Army Airborne Infantry Rangers. I am only sorry that I did not stand up to this threat to our nation before. I am sorry. I was busy.
I have been overseas in Afghanistan and in NATO nations for half a decade while the insanity of the National Rifle Association expanded and exploded, and the NRA became, essentially, the tool of death in the United States. They made mass killings normal... "
Well done, NRA. But this **** is too much.

That's It. I Am Coming Home. - Esquire

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Great find Manc. I was thinking about putting this in here too but didn't find the time.

God Bless Lt. Col. Robert Bateman. :thumbs:

Thrilla said:

nothing wrong with the goal... there's everything wrong about how y'all are going about trying to achieve that goal.

gun control is all about prior restraint and "guilty, until you prove yourself innocent".... and now it's about a bunch of really stupid and/or crazy people that can't find 2 brains cells to rub together when they are looking ot place blame for the heinous, evil acts of other crazy/stupid people.


most everybody knows the 2a protects our.. the people.. right to keep and bears arms... if you want to get all wishy washy about it.. .great, i'm sure you'll find plenty of knuckleheads that believes it's about allowing the national guard to have their guns.
y'all will be on the wrong side of the Constitution,the Supreme court, and the English language... but hey, it's a free country, be as wrong as you want to be.

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Do you know why I said, "Pandora's out of the box and she ain't getting back in"? Because even though the 2A clearly reads that those arms are meant for what we would today call the National Guard - and this understanding is strengthened all the more by the context of the times, since at the time the 2A was written debate was raging among our lawmakers as to whether we should have an army at all - I realize that it would be flatly impossible to force Americans to abide by what the 2A clearly means. The (consistently-dropping percentage of) Americans who own guns aren't going to give them up - we understand that. That's why nobody in his right mind would even try to make that happen.

So instead it's better to try to go for something more sensible, that might stand a ghost of a chance to become law - to try to keep the guns out of the hands of kids, kooks, and evil people. But the gun lobby won't even meet us halfway on that one - instead, they spread fear: "The lib'ruls are a-commin' to take away yer guns! So buy more guns!"

Bush 41 saw this a long time ago - which is why he rescinded his lifetime membership in the NRA. Would that most Americans would have half the courage he does.

Glen Contrarian said:

From CNN:

"In the United States, we had 9,000 people killed with guns last year, in similar countries like Germany 170 (killed with guns), in Canada 150. There's a reason for that," Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-New York, told CNN's Piers Morgan.
"The proof in the pudding is that in every other industrialized nation except the United States, they have reasonable gun control laws, and they have hundreds of people killed each year -- not 9,000 or 10,000 a year -- killed by guns."

Guy, we're not trying to take away everyone's guns - we simply want to try to keep them out of the hands of kooks who shouldn't have access to them to begin with. SENSIBLE gun control laws - like those found in every other first-world nation including Switzerland and Israel (but not Japan) are not tyranny. The 'tyranny' line is what's fed to you so you can help the bottom line of gun manufacturers...and their proxy the NRA.

The NRA's gone off the deep end - and that's why George H.W. Bush rescinded his lifetime membership nearly twenty years ago.

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Rep Nadler IS right. There IS a reason. Those deaths occur by and large in every major city and minority community across the country. Oh...wait...thats right. You dont want to talk about the real causes...you want to focus on the anomaly.

72 shootings in some way related to schools, with shooters ranging from 5 to 53 since Sandy Hook. Meh...pikers. Try 12,042, just up to the end of 2013. Heck...that doesnt TOUCh Philadelias 53 dead this year or Chicagos pace...hell..Chicago had 9 dead and 32 wounded in ONE WEEKEND in April.

But those dont matter to you. They dont count. You only care when they involve cute little pink faced schoolchildren...right?

And since this is yet another example of you engaging the blood orgy to go after the NRA...pray...do tell...which 'sensible laws' are you talking about? Sandy Hook had gun registration. Sandy Hook had background checks. Waiting periods were irrelevant. The shooters in Nevada yesterday used handguns. No assault rifles or mag capacity bans to call for.

What you really mean is LETS PASS A GUN LAW!!! ANYTHING!!! NOW!!! Quick...before the blood dries!!!

Thrilla said:

well, ok then...... despite millions upon millions of Veterans that are here, surely, you'll be the one to come in and save the day ,Captain fantastic.


the dude needs to get over himself.... nothing he, I, or anyone else can do about crazy folks.... and if he blames the NRA, be might need a lil mental health help for himself as well.

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Nothing we can do. I am sorry sir, but that simply is not a good answer! That seems to be the answer by pro-gun loons is that we just cant do anything about it which basically is saying that we have to accept that these things will happen more frequently now and that is just reality. I'm sorry, but I can't and most American's wont accept that answer.

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You cannot have "reasonable" or "sensible" gun laws when the only thing it does is harm lawful citizens. Tell me who is it reasonable and sensible for. Who's feeding whom?

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"the only thing reasonable or sensible gun laws is harm lawful citizens"????

Of course, of course! That's why ALL the other first-world free nations have such higher gun death rates! That's why ALL the other first-world free nations are just a-drownin', I say, a-drownin' in blood!!!! That's why ALL the citizens of those other first-world free nations are sorely oppressed, I say, ah-pressed by socialist nazi tyrannies who keep their people all locked up in gulags and concentration camps!!!!

That's right! An' if'n y'all go on over there and see people livin' and a-smilin', goin' wherevah they wanted ta go, doin' pretty much whatevah they wanted ta do, sayin' pretty much whatevah they wanted ta say...don't be fooled! 'Cause I'm-a tellin' ya, they're all just actin' - they MUST be actin' on the orders of the guv'mint - 'cause they can't be happy much less free...'cause ya can't have FREEDOM - hold on heah, let me raise my flag on mah flag pole now, see that eagle tattoo on mah forearm, ain't it mag...nificient? 'Cause ya can't have FREEDOM unless ya got guns an' more guns! An' MORE guns! An MORE! An...

...Sallie, you come with me over to mah trailer over there now, y'hear? Ah gotta talk to ya about...guns! An' guns! An' guns! An' guns! An'...

...ah, nevah mind, Sallie, I done talked too much for too long, an' mah flag pole, ah say, mah flag pole just don' wanna fly no more right now. 'Scuse me, y'all, ah gotta go change mah shorts....

Glen Contrarian said:

Do you know why I said, "Pandora's out of the box and she ain't getting back in"? Because even though the 2A clearly reads that those arms are meant for what we would today call the National Guard - and this understanding is strengthened all the more by the context of the times, since at the time the 2A was written debate was raging among our lawmakers as to whether we should have an army at all - I realize that it would be flatly impossible to force Americans to abide by what the 2A clearly means. The (consistently-dropping percentage of) Americans who own guns aren't going to give them up - we understand that. That's why nobody in his right mind would even try to make that happen.

So instead it's better to try to go for something more sensible, that might stand a ghost of a chance to become law - to try to keep the guns out of the hands of kids, kooks, and evil people. But the gun lobby won't even meet us halfway on that one - instead, they spread fear: "The lib'ruls are a-commin' to take away yer guns! So buy more guns!"

Bush 41 saw this a long time ago - which is why he rescinded his lifetime membership in the NRA. Would that most Americans would have half the courage he does.

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I disagree with your interpretation of the 2a... it makes zero sense for many reasons.... all of which are besides the point in this thread.
you are correct about it not going away though...

you are also correct in saying we won't meet you halfway.... there is a reason for that.
your "way" is entirely wrong .. it's unethical, immoral, and quite frankly ,against American principles, including legal doctrines we hold dear.

choose another way that does not find your self in the unenviable position of being on the side that harms those whom have done nothing to harm anyone... put yourself in a position that does not intent to enact " guilty, until you prove yourself innocent".


we all get it... none of us wants kids dying , none of wants to see people murdered .... we all share this in common.. the goal is to stop it.
there are many roads to that goal...some are wrong, some are right.... the path the anti-gunners have been on for decades is decidedly wrong.
you actively seek to punish those whom have done no wrong... you actively seek to infringe upon our rights ... you actively seek to turn us, overnight, from innocent to guilty, without Due Process, I might add.


personally, I don't give 2 ****s about the NRA... they are too soft in the defense of our 2A rights.
furthermore, it doesn't take courage to stop fighting for rights, or to stop supporting those whom do, even if they do so halfheartedly... it takes zero courage.
it takes courage to stand up to those whom would violate your rights and say " **** you.. we ain't having it".

maybe if y'all spend some time trying to concoct solutions that would not have some very very bad side effects (8 not that i believe they are side effects at all), you might find some common ground and maybe mutually agreeable measures might just materialize.... or you can stick to the same simpleton wrongheaded horsehockey that's on display and we'll just keep moseyin' around the mulberry bush.
I'm good either way.