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Jails for Guns

Jerry said:
I'm glad you folks don't have to register your rifles anymore.
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Actually the provinces have decided to not listen the Ontario police are keeping their own unofficial one with cooperation from gun dealers and Quebec now has their own. It's for the protection of the police and other emergency personnel not for normal citizens. The NDP admits there was flaws if they get elected they promise to implement an improved hassle free version.
 
0bserver92 said:
Actually the provinces have decided to not listen the Ontario police are keeping their own unofficial one with cooperation from gun dealers and Quebec now has their own. It's for the protection of the police and other emergency personnel not for normal citizens. The NDP admits there was flaws if they get elected they promise to implement an improved hassle free version.
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It's interesting to see where different honest and well meaning people come from on this.

In Canada, you folks have unofficial registration, but here in South Dakota, any form of registration is illegal. We see it as an invasion of privacy.
 
Jerry said:
It's interesting to see where different honest and well meaning people come from on this.
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The provincial police and the RCMP fought tooth and nail with the Conservative party to keep it. The example they used to support it is, what if they need to go into a home or pull over a vehicle, they need to know how dangerous it is. It is also used in investigations to pin down possible suspects in the area.
 
0bserver92 said:
The provincial police and the RCMP fought tooth and nail with the Conservative party to keep it. The example they used to support it is, what if they need to go into a home or pull over a vehicle, they need to know how dangerous it is. It is also used in investigations to pin down possible suspects in the area.
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In SD we just assume everyone's armed and go from there, because a criminal with a hot gun certainly isn't registered anyway.

Registration is only a hot-topic in the US because of how it's used in relation to other things. If gun were as easy and free to own and use as cars, registration wouldn't be a big deal at all, just like car registration. In the US, gun registration is tied to gun confiscation, whereas car registration is not tied to car confiscation.

If gun ownership were more like car ownership: where you could get a licence good in all 50 states, where owning a gun was normal and you would be weird if you did not own one, where you could own pretty much any personal firearm you could afford just like you can own any kind of car you can afford...registration wouldn't be a big deal at all.
 
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Jerry said:
In SD we just assume everyone's armed and go from there, because a criminal with a hot gun certainly isn't registered anyway.
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Well say there is a domestic violence call they will search the computer to see if anyone owns a gun, if so they will send more officers with more firepower. If the police say it helps them do their jobs and keep safe I say keep it.
 
0bserver92 said:
Well say there is a domestic violence call they will search the computer to see if anyone owns a gun, if so they will send more officers with more firepower. If the police say it helps them do their jobs and keep safe I say keep it.
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I understand, I'm just pointing out that we send those extra officers by default. We see that as good policy since kitchen knives and broken glass aren't registered, either.
 
I feel like being a little ****, so, since my local mall has a no-gun policy, I'm going to strap on the Colt .45 and head on over for a little x-mas shopping :mrgreen:

Oh hey, quick funny story:
Last week I ordered a grip for my Colt online. The order form was pretty standard, asking for address, credit card#, etc....but at the bottom was a box for "special instructions". In that box I wrote "Please include a hand drawn picture of a dinosaur dressed as Micheal Jackson in an action pose of your choice".

A few days later the grip arrived in the mail, and something was drawn on the packing list....

I wrote them a 'thank-you' e-mail and included a pic of the Colt with the new grip, pictured below:

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Jerry said:
I understand, I'm just pointing out that we send those extra officers by default. We see that as good policy since kitchen knives and broken glass aren't registered, either.
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Another difference you will find between the U.S. and Canada is that society is pretty anti-gun here, especially handguns are just not socially acceptable. A hunting rifle sure, a handgun no. After the polytechnique massacre gun laws became what they are today and that was under a Progressive Conservative government. The second amendment was made due to how you you fought for your freedom and to prevent tyrannical rule here we want the exact opposite since armed rebellions throughout our history are very common.
 
0bserver92 said:
Another difference you will find between the U.S. and Canada is that society is pretty anti-gun here, especially handguns are just not socially acceptable. A hunting rifle sure, a handgun no. After the polytechnique massacre gun laws became what they are today and that was under a Progressive Conservative government. The second amendment was made due to how you you fought for your freedom and to prevent tyrannical rule here we want the exact opposite since armed rebellions throughout our history are very common.
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Hand guns aren't as socially acceptable in the US as many think.

Just a few weeks ago a neighbor reported me to the landlady and threatened to call the police, just because I went out to my car with my pistol showing. It was a nice day and I was wearing jeans and a tucked in shirt. The pistol was holstered on my right hip, and I never even touched it while going to my car. Open-carry is perfectly legal here, plus I live here, and you would think that if someone could carry a hand gun at all it would be in and around their own residence. My neighbor was calmed by someone with far more social grace then myself, informed that my carrying was perfectly legal, and I was asked to conceal while outside.

Bull**** like that is why I act out by carrying a gun into a mall with a no-gun policy, which I'm about to do now.
 
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Went to the mall, lots of people out, lots of children, my gun isn't registered....no one died.

Now tell me why that can't be so for the whole rest of the world?
 
I agree; but this is the point. This is what anti's agenda truly is; to make gun ownership more difficult. When you make it more expensive it takes a small population out of the equation, when you make it harder to do you take down a few more shops, and then they move on to the next effort; and so forth.


Fisher said:
I know. I just don't like the idea of forcing businesses to provide free storage separate from the gun control issue. It adds liability and a lot of overhead in exchange for nothing.
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Goshin said:
When my father began to lose his presence of mind in his last months of life, I took his guns and locked them in my gun safe at my house, aside from one pistol that my mother kept hidden from him in case she needed to defend her self or her home from criminals.

Years later, when age and cumulative brain damage from COPD caused my mother to become mentally unreliable, we took her pistol out of the house and my sister kept it at her home.


A little responsibility goes a long way.


I've told my son that the day may come, when I'm elderly and infirm, that it may be his responsibility to do likewise to me if I become mentally impaired.

It's better to keep it in the family.
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When Obama pulls the lever on you at the "death panel" hearing. :lol:
 
Jerry said:
I feel like being a little ****, so, since my local mall has a no-gun policy, I'm going to strap on the Colt .45 and head on over for a little x-mas shopping :mrgreen:

Oh hey, quick funny story:
Last week I ordered a grip for my Colt online. The order form was pretty standard, asking for address, credit card#, etc....but at the bottom was a box for "special instructions". In that box I wrote "Please include a hand drawn picture of a dinosaur dressed as Micheal Jackson in an action pose of your choice".

A few days later the grip arrived in the mail, and something was drawn on the packing list....

I wrote them a 'thank-you' e-mail and included a pic of the Colt with the new grip, pictured below:

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You have got to be ****ting me... they actually included the drawing.

I don't give a **** if they drew it or got it off the interwebz from google... the fact that they did it was cool.
 
Jerry said:
Hand guns aren't as socially acceptable in the US as many think.

Just a few weeks ago a neighbor reported me to the landlady and threatened to call the police, just because I went out to my car with my pistol showing. It was a nice day and I was wearing jeans and a tucked in shirt. The pistol was holstered on my right hip, and I never even touched it while going to my car. Open-carry is perfectly legal here, plus I live here, and you would think that if someone could carry a hand gun at all it would be in and around their own residence. My neighbor was calmed by someone with far more social grace then myself, informed that my carrying was perfectly legal, and I was asked to conceal while outside.

Bull**** like that is why I act out by carrying a gun into a mall with a no-gun policy, which I'm about to do now.
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So a no-gun policy is not enforceable?
 
Jerry said:
Went to the mall, lots of people out, lots of children, my gun isn't registered....no one died.

Now tell me why that can't be so for the whole rest of the world?
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You don't have to register your gun?
 
American said:
You don't have to register your gun?
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Registration is illegal in SD:
South Dakota Codified Laws: 23-7-8.6. List, record, or registry of privately owned firearms, owners of firearms, or holders of permits prohibited. No state agency, political subdivision, official, agent, or employee of any state agency or political subdivision may knowingly keep or cause to be kept any list, record, or registry of privately owned firearms or any list, record, or registry of the owners of those firearms, or any list, record, or registry of holders of permits to carry a concealed pistol.
Source: SL 2005, ch 124, § 1; SL 2006, ch 133, § 2.
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Additionally, any firearm made and residing in SD is not subject to any federal regulation; including anything which may be covered in a federal assault-weapon ban:
South Dakota Codified Laws: 37-35-2. Firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition manufactured and retained in state declared exempt from federal regulation. Any firearm, firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in South Dakota and that remains within the borders of South Dakota is not subject to federal law or federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of Congress to regulate interstate commerce.

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If another AWB is passed, that will only create a demand for locally made firearms.

 
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American said:
So a no-gun policy is not enforceable?
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It's enforceable to the point where I can be asked to leave just as if I weren't wearing shoes or brought my own drink into a theater. If asked I have to leave, of course, but that goes for anything. A friend of mine was once asked to leave for wearing a politically charged shirt he bought at that mall not an hour before, because someone got all offended. Well, I don't wear my gun in the open the way he was wearing his shirt in the open.

IMO my gun is as private as my wallet and cell phone. You can say they're not welcome all you want, I'm going to have them anyway; you only force me to be more discrete about it.
 
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Gladiator said:
If a gun owner feels that his home has become unsafe for guns, there are not many optins for a gunowner to securely store guns outside of his home.

The Oregon mall shooting was with a stolen gun. The Newtown shooting was with a parent's guns.

Did the Newton mom have a place to safely store her guns, when her son was getting more argumentative than usual? Where?

Could a law be enacted that would require gun dealers to provide safety storage lockers, on the presmisis of the gun shop? It would be cheaper to put guns in lockers, than to put gun abusers in jail. Should all local police departments be required to provide storage lockers for guns, for rasonable rates?

Putting guns in Pawn shops is an option.



Long term gun storage facility options




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Serves what purpose? Guns to have any effect on crime must be on lock and load mode....therefore one must be ready to shoot. Weapon on fire, finger on trigger, rifle follows eyes...hard scan.
 
American said:
You don't have to register your gun?
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I don't have to register my gun here in the great state of North Carolina either......

Ahh living in the south is great.
 
You think that's great in Texas you Jump through a few legal hoops and you can get anything class 3 u want.
 
Gladiator said:
If a ...

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... an option.
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You know what?

I'd come OUT of Retirement to be a "guard" at this jail.


(<~ Will Work For:
$52K
100% covered health/life/disability insurances,
corporate housing,
company vehicle,
and 50% co-do(nation) to 401K)
 
There should be a National Short Bus Day.

ED, Emotional Disabled and LD, Learning Disabled, people should receive calls of support from relatives, shoolmates, etc.
Ryan Lanza is said to be innocent, becasue he did not call his brother Adam for 2 years.

Gun violence might be reduced, if people were more suportive of those people they know, who are LD or ED.

Adam was trying to get his brother Ryan in trouble, becasue Adam had Ryan's id. Siblins have a game of getting other siblings in trouble by tattling. Adam took it to an extreme. Did Ryan fail to help his brother Adam in some way, when they were both at Sandy Hook Elementary school?




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