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Meanwhile Yet Another Shutdown Looms

jonny5

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Republicans ready new bid to avoid shutdown - POLITICO

Senate Republicans plan to strip Louisiana disaster aid money from a stalled stopgap spending bill, in a move that could resolve Democratic objections to the legislation — and stave off a government shutdown at the end of the week.
The move comes after Democrats voted Tuesday to reject the stopgap spending measure — which would keep the government open until Dec. 9 — because the package provides money for Louisiana and other states but does nothing to address the water crisis in Flint, Michigan.


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Congress is still unable to do their one yearly job of appropriating money to fund various services. And here the party of NO is blocking a final bill from going forward because some people got FEMA money and others didnt, regardless of the fact that its not the job of one state to fund the water quality or mud of people in another state. People pay local and state taxes for those things.

This isnt even a real spending bill, but just yet another temporary bill to get us past the election. Which is why we need to throw every single person in congress out that we can, in november. Find out who the incumbent is and vote for ANYONE else.
 
Makes perfect sense. The Louisiana funding notwithstanding, putting out a bill that has $1.1 Billion to research something that has affected 12 people in the country while refusing to spend 10% of that amount to help the 80,000 people in Flint seems pathetic.
 
Critter7r said:
Makes perfect sense. The Louisiana funding notwithstanding, putting out a bill that has $1.1 Billion to research something that has affected 12 people in the country while refusing to spend 10% of that amount to help the 80,000 people in Flint seems pathetic.
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Which makes the GOP compromise even better. Remove all funding for both.
 
jonny5 said:
Which makes the GOP compromise even better. Remove all funding for both.
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Really! From a human health perspective, it is "better" to allow unhealthy levels of lead to be consumed!

You do understand that much of the insane levels of gun violence that happened in the urban centers '89 to '94....was attributed to lead exposure @ 20 years earlier?
 
I don't see why we don't just help the folks in Michigan. We are all American, and they need our help. It's the decent thing to do.
 
sookster said:
I don't see why we don't just help the folks in Michigan. We are all American, and they need our help. It's the decent thing to do.
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You commie.

;)
 
jonny5 said:
Congress is still unable to do their one yearly job of appropriating money to fund various services. And here the party of NO is blocking a final bill from going forward because some people got FEMA money and others didnt, regardless of the fact that its not the job of one state to fund the water quality or mud of people in another state. People pay local and state taxes for those things.

This isnt even a real spending bill, but just yet another temporary bill to get us past the election. Which is why we need to throw every single person in congress out that we can, in november. Find out who the incumbent is and vote for ANYONE else.
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Exactly why I'm voting for Trump.
 
jonny5 said:
Which makes the GOP compromise even better. Remove all funding for both.
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How about reducing the ridiculous amount slated for Zika research by the amount needed for Flint.

Let's address the immediate, relatively inexpensive issues we have before spending a relatively huge amount on something that is barely an issue.

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sookster said:
I don't see why we don't just help the folks in Michigan. We are all American, and they need our help. It's the decent thing to do.
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Nothing is stopping you. Go for it. Give them all your money.
 
Critter7r said:
How about reducing the ridiculous amount slated for Zika research by the amount needed for Flint.

Let's address the immediate, relatively inexpensive issues we have before spending a relatively huge amount on something that is barely an issue.

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Zika at least affects the entire country and world. Flints problems are local.
 
Critter7r said:
Makes perfect sense. The Louisiana funding notwithstanding, putting out a bill that has $1.1 Billion to research something that has affected 12 people in the country while refusing to spend 10% of that amount to help the 80,000 people in Flint seems pathetic.
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Commutable disease seems more dangerous to the country as a whole.
 
sookster said:
I don't see why we don't just help the folks in Michigan. We are all American, and they need our help. It's the decent thing to do.
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Which people do we want to help and how much? There are lots of citizens with grave problems.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Really! From a human health perspective, it is "better" to allow unhealthy levels of lead to be consumed!

You do understand that much of the insane levels of gun violence that happened in the urban centers '89 to '94....was attributed to lead exposure @ 20 years earlier?
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No it wasn't one group made a sham study to try to discredit proactive policing and three strikes laws by blaming lead exposure for criminal behavior, their own results cannot be used to conclude that, that is absolutely silly to think that out of thousands of biological and environmental factors you can pin someone's choice to commit a crime on some lead exposure.
 
Critter7r said:
Zika has affected 3 people. How is that "the entire country"?
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19,777 cases in the US so far according to the CDC, brought to every single state. Only contracted locally in one state, but seeing as how its passed via insect or bodily contact, that makes its a national issue. Im not arguing for a oversized response. Simply pointing out that infectious disease is far more of a global problem than water pipes in one city.

https://www.cdc.gov/zika/geo/united-states.html
 
jonny5 said:
19,777 cases in the US so far according to the CDC, brought to every single state. Only contracted locally in one state, but seeing as how its passed via insect or bodily contact, that makes its a national issue. Im not arguing for a oversized response. Simply pointing out that infectious disease is far more of a global problem than water pipes in one city.

https://www.cdc.gov/zika/geo/united-states.html
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19,400 of them are in Puerto Rico.

Otherwise ...

US States
•Locally acquired mosquito-borne cases reported: 43
•Travel-associated cases reported: 3,314
•Laboratory acquired cases reported: 1
•Total: 3,358

◦Sexually transmitted: 28
◦Guillain-Barré syndrome: 8


Still only a quarter of the number of citizens that are being affected by the situation in Flint. And it could easily be said that Zika is a local problem.... it's only in Florida. :shrug
 
jonny5 said:
19,777 cases in the US so far according to the CDC, brought to every single state. Only contracted locally in one state, but seeing as how its passed via insect or bodily contact, that makes its a national issue. Im not arguing for a oversized response. Simply pointing out that infectious disease is far more of a global problem than water pipes in one city.

https://www.cdc.gov/zika/geo/united-states.html
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P.S. It is NOT transmitted through "bodily contact", that is a horrible mischaracterization (or a reeeeeeaaaallllly unfortunate typo). It is through an insect bite, sex or childbirth. You CANNOT catch Zika by touching an infected person unless there are two people touching open, bleeding wounds to each other.
 
Shut the mother ****er down. I'd like to hear more Dr Seuss from lucifer personified.
 
Critter7r said:
Many things that seem a certain way, aren't.


(*communicable)
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True. The water thing sounds like katrina and Zika more like AIDS.
 
Critter7r said:
P.S. It is NOT transmitted through "bodily contact", that is a horrible mischaracterization (or a reeeeeeaaaallllly unfortunate typo). It is through an insect bite, sex or childbirth. You CANNOT catch Zika by touching an infected person unless there are two people touching open, bleeding wounds to each other.
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I meant bodily fluid.
 
Critter7r said:
19,400 of them are in Puerto Rico.

Otherwise ...

US States
•Locally acquired mosquito-borne cases reported: 43
•Travel-associated cases reported: 3,314
•Laboratory acquired cases reported: 1
•Total: 3,358

◦Sexually transmitted: 28
◦Guillain-Barré syndrome: 8


Still only a quarter of the number of citizens that are being affected by the situation in Flint. And it could easily be said that Zika is a local problem.... it's only in Florida. :shrug
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People travel somewhere, get infected, and have brought it back to every single state. Where they can then pass it on to other people. That makes its a national thing.
 
jonny5 said:
People travel somewhere, get infected, and have brought it back to every single state. Where they can then pass it on to other people. That makes its a national thing.
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This is like arguing the commerce clause. There's really nothing anyone can say to prove you "wrong", but the possibility is miniscule.
 
sookster said:
I don't see why we don't just help the folks in Michigan. We are all American, and they need our help. It's the decent thing to do.
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But Republicans have a double standard. When Hurricane Ike ravaged Houston, Republicans were complaining that help coming here was too slow. But when it comes to Hurricane Sandy or lead poisoning in Flint, Republicans complain that helping out costs the taxpayers money.
 
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