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tell them that
OK,I misspoke. It appears that about 15 people are basing their Trump support at least part on building the wall.
tell them that
You have a source for these assumptions, or are we going with an entirely from-the-hip argument expecting good conversation?
....you apparently don't know that the GOP-led House just passed a measure to deal with Zika. It spent more than $6 Trillion dimes.
You serious? What would you call, say, the USSR if not tolitarian?
You have a source for these assumptions, or are we going with an entirely from-the-hip argument expecting good conversation?
You certainly have some unusual logic based on opinion with no facts. We get it. You hate republicans and South Carolina.
OK,I misspoke. It appears that about 15 people are basing their Trump support at least part on building the wall.
This is most certainly 100% accurate.A nation with no borders, isn't a nation.
But we also don't need a wall.
nobody was ever totalitarian, totalitarianism was the stated goal of benito mussolini's fascists, someone who btw trump is a yuuuuuge fan of, and the communists murdered
Uh.....
You might want to look into the Great Purge, just to start with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
And the gulag system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag
How about you try picking up a paper or checking a news website other than your right wing propaganda sites and you'd find one easy enough.
ive heard of them?
How about you provide something for us to discuss being that this is your topic and theory.
Given that we're already on post 60 here I think most people already seem to understand what the discussion is about.
A nation with no borders, isn't a nation.
This is most certainly 100% accurate.
Those are literally textbook examples of a tolitarian system.
Do you need a citation about the color of the sky to discuss why it's blue as well?Well this has been a fun drive through ridiculous land.
No actual citations for any person on either side saying it was more important to keep immigrants out than to cure Zika.
Exactly what Rock do you live under? The disease can cause severe deformities in children.Also, let's look at some facts quoted from the CDC:
"The illness is usually mild with symptoms lasting for several days to a week after being bitten by an infected mosquito. People usually don’t get sick enough to go to the hospital, and they very rarely die of Zika."
So. Are we calling for a national emergency for the common cold next?
No, it's a discussion about the fact that Congress just took a two week vacation without passing anything to deal with the problem. Why? Because rather than just pass a bill that funds defensive efforts they're trying to use it to scuttle a whole bunch of deregulation bull**** through along with it. Do you seriously think republicans would do that if they were discussing a bill to build a wall to keep out mexicans?If this is some kind of outrage for the virus having more serious effects in other countries (which it may)
America should come first and to think we should turn our country into a third world country to "bring us into line" with other countries is insane at best.
Purely idiotic and dangerous at worse.
You can have a border without trapping people inside or out of it. Each U.S. State has a border, but that doesn't mean people can't freely travel across them. For decades our boarder with Canada was essentially wide open. You didn't even need a passport to cross it. In fact for a good century+ after the signing of the declaration of independence there was little or not regulation of immigration into this country. My My what were the founders thinking?
during the cold war right wing propaganda liked to call the soviet union fascists, so you can agree with them and say the soviet union was a fascist country, or you can agree that nobody was ever totalitarians not even the people who invented it and called for it (the fascists). But you can't say the soviet union was both communist and totalitarian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism#Criticism_and_recent_work_with_the_concept
Also, let's look at some facts quoted from the CDC:
"The illness is usually mild with symptoms lasting for several days to a week after being bitten by an infected mosquito. People usually don’t get sick enough to go to the hospital, and they very rarely die of Zika."
So. Are we calling for a national emergency for the common cold next?
Tom Frieden said:Imagine that you’re standing by and you see someone drowning, and you have the ability to stop them from drowning, but you can’t. Now multiply that by 1,000 or 100,000. That’s what it feels like to know how to change the course of an epidemic and not be able to do it.
Tom Frieden said:Three months in an epidemic is an eternity.
No, they are actually quite similar. In fact most of Europe(which is made up of different countries) has very little border security for people traveling between European nations. You also ignored what I mentioned about the borders between Canada and the U.S. It seems Border security is only important when it's keeping dark skinned people out.Comparing states borders internal to a nation to the national border is dishonest and inaccurate. They are two quite different things.
Comparing the national border situation of over two centuries ago with the difficulty of transportation then to the relative ease of transportation now is also dishonest and inaccurate.
But we also don't need a wall.
You are confusing the US with the EU. Just because the EU has made an economic zone of themselves and allow easy border crossing, doesn't mean that the US could or should do the same.No, they are actually quite similar. In fact most of Europe(which is made up of different countries) has very little border security for people traveling between European nations.
You also ignored what I mentioned about the borders between Canada and the U.S.
It seems Border security is only important when it's keeping dark skinned people out.
No, not really in fact the relative easy of transportation makes this whole thing even more idiotic. The notion that building a wall would do any good whatsoever in a time where Airplanes exist is ridiculous. In fact most illegal aliens in this country actually enter the country legally by plane or boat only to over stay their visa.
Well since you can't be bothered to cite your misinformation, allow me to help you out.Do you need a citation about the color of the sky to discuss why it's blue as well?
Exactly what Rock do you live under? The disease can cause severe deformities in children.
No, it's a discussion about the fact that Congress just took a two week vacation without passing anything to deal with the problem. Why? Because rather than just pass a bill that funds defensive efforts they're trying to use it to scuttle a whole bunch of deregulation bull**** through along with it. Do you seriously think republicans would do that if they were discussing a bill to build a wall to keep out mexicans?
What in the actual **** are you even blabbing on about here? For **** sake.
Please educate yourself on how deadly the virus is:Huh? That's weird that must be why Tom Frieden head of the CDC gave such an emotional plea to congress to
CDC Head Tom Frieden Delivers Emotional Plea For Zika Funding
LOL!!!! Are you trying to make my argument for me? Europe eliminated border crossing nonsense for the good of economic development. Just like our ancestors left our borders open for the good of economic development. It is people like yourself that are trying to turn the United States into North Korea, and the damage to the economy would be traumatic.You are confusing the US with the EU. Just because the EU has made an economic zone of themselves and allow easy border crossing, doesn't mean that the US could or should do the same.
People sneak across all the time. You just don't care because they're white.If there's no one sneaking across, why is it a problem? It's probably more attributable that there is next to no quality of life difference between Canada and the US.
If you don't want me to use it, then stop playing it. There is not rational purpose for a wall on the Mexican border. It does not enhance security, it does not improve the economy. It's an irrational hateful idea that is born out of ignorant nationalism. Nationalism that only seems to apply to people with brown skin. Generally that is referred to as racism.Has absolutely nothing to do with that, but sure, keep using the lame racist card.
Sovereignty is the ability to govern oneself. Nothing about building a wall to keep out the brown people helps us govern ourselves. We've had open boarders for centuries and it has only made the country stronger and stronger with each passing generation.Because it's too hard, we should give up our national sovereignty?