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Here's What Republican Government Means for Fiscal Responsibility

jonny5 said:
Or D and R period. The party system has ruined the country, because its all about winning, not about doing something with the win.
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you don't understand, you really don't win when the country elects the same number of Democrats as Republicans. Do you understand now?
 
James972 said:
you don't understand, you really don't win when the country elects the same number of Democrats as Republicans. Do you understand now?
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You dont understand, you dont really win when they have a majority either. Do you understand now?
 
jonny5 said:
You dont understand, you dont really win when they have a majority either. Do you understand now?
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if you have a big enough majority in govt,electorate, and press you can do anything you want. Do you understand?
 
jonny5 said:
If you have a big enough majority, they screw the minority. Do you understand?
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our subject was whether you can get stuff done if you have a big majority, not what happens to the minority in that case.
 
jpn said:
After 8 years of Republican Bobby Jindal:





After Republican Sam Brownback's neat-o plan to slash taxes because it will increase tax revenues due to all those new jobs:



Reagan slashed taxes and tripled the nation's debt.
Clinton raised taxes and the deficit turned into a surplus.
Bush slashed taxes and the surplus turned back into a deficit.
Jindal slashed taxes, and the result was a total disaster, per above.
Brownback slashed taxes, and the result was a total disaster, per above.

Trump, Cruz, Rubio all want to slash taxes. Especially for the already rich. But it will be okay, because tax revenues will actually increase.

Really.
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Corps are in business to make money. ANY jobs that are created are minimal and that tax revenue is nowhere near enough to plug the wholes created by the tax cuts. It's three card monte: create an agenda, divert attention, funnel money from one pocket to another, show growth in areas of the agenda and blame the areas that you stole from for not producing.

easy peasy

The big trouble comes in how governments handle this stuff: one guy comes in and tells the state, or the US to "dig a hole". The next guy comes in and says "why are ruining a good lawn!? Fill that back up!" The next guy wants the hole dug, then the next guy wants it filled up... and we're always the ones working the shovel.
 
jet57 said:
Corps are in business to make money. ANY jobs that are created are minimal and that tax revenue is nowhere near enough to plug the wholes created by the tax cuts. It's three card monte: create an agenda, divert attention, funnel money from one pocket to another, show growth in areas of the agenda and blame the areas that you stole from for not producing.

easy peasy

The big trouble comes in how governments handle this stuff: one guy comes in and tells the state, or the US to "dig a hole". The next guy comes in and says "why are ruining a good lawn!? Fill that back up!" The next guy wants the hole dug, then the next guy wants it filled up... and we're always the ones working the shovel.
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gibberish nonsense. Why not tell us if you are lib or con and why rather than goof!!
 
jet57 said:
what do'ya want me to be

I'll be anything you want.
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translation: as a typical liberal I know better than to present my positions in public, but I'll stay a liberal anyway.
 
James972 said:
translation: as a typical liberal I know better than to present my positions in public, but I'll stay a liberal anyway.
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sure - that's gotta be it
 
James972 said:
our subject was whether you can get stuff done if you have a big majority, not what happens to the minority in that case.
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Getting stuff done isnt the same as change. All they end up getting done is more of the same. More laws, more taxes, more spending, more debt. Bush had a majority. We got more laws, more spending, more war. Lower tax rates, but I pay more taxes than ever before. Obama had a majority, we got more spending, more debt, more taxes, more laws.
 
jonny5 said:
Getting stuff done isnt the same as change. All they end up getting done is more of the same. More laws, more taxes, more spending, more debt. Bush had a majority. We got more laws, more spending, more war. Lower tax rates, but I pay more taxes than ever before. Obama had a majority, we got more spending, more debt, more taxes, more laws.
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You totally misunderstand. If either party had a big enough majority there would be huge changes!! Americans are divided so they elect a govt that is divided. American are pissed off at the divided govt they elect. How smart is that??
 
James972 said:
You totally misunderstand. If either party had a big enough majority there would be huge changes!! Americans are divided so they elect a govt that is divided. American are pissed off at the divided govt they elect. How smart is that??
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There wouldnt be huge changes. Just more power in their hands.
 
jonny5 said:
There wouldnt be huge changes. Just more power in their hands.
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yes far more power with which to enact their agenda and thus cause huge change. Now do you understand?
 
jonny5 said:
:beatdeadhorse
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yes if Democrats or Republicans had a huge majority they would have far more power with which to enact their agenda and thus cause huge change. Now do you understand? There is gridlock now not because govt does not work but because the electorate is gridlocked.
 
James972 said:
yes if Democrats or Republicans had a huge majority they would have far more power with which to enact their agenda and thus cause huge change. Now do you understand? There is gridlock now not because govt does not work but because the electorate is gridlocked.
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I said good day.
 
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